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Re: Professional opinions? [allmet33] by donna388
Mar 19, 2009 (7:53 am)
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"To make a statement that there are no finer suspensions than those found in Buicks...
it really makes me question your automobile credibility."

 
I did not make that precise statement. What I did say was that GM as a group does make the finest suspensions which of course includes Buick. We should all be so lucky with the Azeras.
Read todays news: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090319/ap_on_bi_ge/autos_dependability;_ylt=AohkBmy- d5zfqztBeL7zIm9934T0D
Surprise surprise. Buick is on top.
Read the entire article. You will not find any Hyundai product even mentioned!
 
Why do you criticize me? Weren't you the one that just had only one strut replaced recently? Your Azera suspension is great, but you allowed your fine dealer to replace only one side? How is that balanced? That's like relining the brakes on one side only.
A new strut on one side and the other side has over 60K miles on it!
 
Most of us have 'normal tastes' and do not consider 20 inch wheels and extremely low profile sidewall tires the proper way to go. With sidewalls that short, the ride must be rather stiff.
If that's your thing, that's fine with me, but that combination surely changes
the stock ride doesn't it? I do not expect you to admit that little fact!
 
"Some life you have there to follow another poster around to every single forum he
may be a part of AND take the time to read every single one of his posts.
Does that make you an authority on the Azera suspension or on Carolinabob?"

 
I have the time thank you, for unlike you, I am retired and not at work. What I do with my time is none of your business. Who is to say that maybe he follows me around. You read his posts too, and as a matter of fact you probably spend much more time on these forums that I do.
You post more than Bob and I do combined, although most of your post are meaningless.
How many posts have you made compared to the combined totals of Bob and I?
Of course I am not an authority on Bob, or anyone else for that matter.
I do know considerably more about him that you do because, unlike you, I have
spent many many hours speaking with him. Have you ever spoken to Bob?
 
As far as being an authority on the Azera suspension, I've got you beat there, having been
back to the agency now six time for that same problem over the last 18 months.
Can you rattle off all the shock part numbers from memory as I can? I thought not!
Based on that fact is how my ownership of this otherwise almost perfect car
will terminate shortly under California's Sony-Beverly (Lemon Law) act.
 
Like many others here, I do know all about the problems with the Azera suspension.
Many here including yourself are happy with their Azeras suspension. I am not one.
That's why I am 'jumping ship.'
 
Carry on and enjoy!
 
 
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Re: Professional opinions? [donna388] by joe97
Mar 19, 2009 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: donna388 (Mar 19, 2009 7:53 am)

GM makes the finest suspension? I can't stop laughing here.
 
Read todays news: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090319/ap_on_bi_ge/autos_dependability;_ylt=AohkBmy- - d5zfqztBeL7zIm9934T0D
Surprise surprise. Buick is on top.
Read the entire article. You will not find any Hyundai product even mentioned!

 
Hyundai is at 161, much better than last year's showing, at 200 last year, for comparison.
 
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Re: Professional opinions? [donna388] by allmet33
Mar 19, 2009 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: donna388 (Mar 19, 2009 7:53 am)

While GM's umbrella is quite large, they can hardly be credited with making the finest suspensions in the game.
 
As far as my strut replacement, only one strut was giving problems and it wasn't a ride quality issue, it was a creaking noise over bumps. If the other one offers any problems, then back it'll go for replacement. I guess I'm just too laid back and easy going to get in an uproar as to why they would only replace one side when it's quite possible the other one should be replaced, but hey...if they want to do the alignment a 2nd time, it's on them and I'm not gonna worry about it since it's all covered by warranty. If I were paying out of pocket...it would be a different story.
 
I've read Carolinabob's postings, but hardly all of them...maybe only a fraction of them considering the only place I've read them is here in this forum. I would hardly believe that he would be the one doing the following because the more you post, the more I truly believe who you really are. There is no possible way I could spend more time in these forums if you've been the one to have read all of Bob's postings....sorry, I'm just not a groupie. I haven't spoken to Bob and I don't need to. I have not discounted his issues or your issues with the Azera suspension and you shouldn't be accusing everyone else of being in denial with their respective Azeras. Do you really think that just because you and Bob have shared the same issue that everyone else in the rest of the nation MUST have the same problem as well?
 
I am truly sorry that you have had the experience you've had with your Azera, while you get out of yours, I will continue to happily motor on down the road in mine. The content and direction of your post, along with your location...I've pretty much figured out who you are. Don't worry Batman...your secret is safe with me!
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Re: Professional opinions? [joe97] by allmet33
Mar 19, 2009 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 19, 2009 8:39 am)

Funny thing is...GM is supposedly so good, a majority of their umbrella is below the industry average. I'm supposed to believe that GM is just THAT great based on that info???
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Re: Professional opinions? [allmet33] by carolinabob
Mar 19, 2009 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 19, 2009 6:03 am)

Edmunds in its 2006 review for one said it was not as good as it should be and there were others. There were also others. The most telling was Chris Wardlaw on the Consumers Guide auto website back in 2006/2007.
  See my post on 2009 Genesis thread.
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Re: Professional opinions? [donna388] by gamleged
Mar 19, 2009 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: donna388 (Mar 18, 2009 1:09 pm)

I guess I'm among the more fortunate ones in that my 2006 Limited (35k miles and counting) doesn't seem to notably suffer from wallowing, porpusing and unsafe bobbing about from lack of proper jounce and rebound control, and that's certainly fine with me! I'm still driving with all of the original suspension components, though I suspect that, in another year or two, I may have to buy a set of new tires, replacing the OEM Michelins...
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Re: Professional opinions? [carolinabob] by allmet33
Mar 20, 2009 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Mar 19, 2009 1:16 pm)

Exactly my point...most of the reviews have said that very thing or have said...the suspension could be better, but that it was more than adequate. Did you ever see the test drive of the car on the Speed Channel? They were running the Genesis sedan around a track and it held it's poise nicely, even when the tires ran up on the ridged track edge on a few corners. Not once did the driver complain that the car felt skittish or uncontrolled.
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Re: Professional opinions? [allmet33] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 20, 2009 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 20, 2009 5:49 am)

I think the question has to be asked-- "compared to what?"
 
Compared to a GM car or a Lexus, the Genesis handles fine. Compared to a BMW---no, it's not even close. So say the mags anyway.
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Re: Professional opinions? [Mr_Shiftright] by allmet33
Mar 20, 2009 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 20, 2009 7:40 am)

I agree with you completely. I can take it one further and say the Genesis suspension doesn't compare to that of an Audi A6 (which I just purchased this past weekend). Honestly...the Germans seem to have a strong handle (no pun intended) on what good handling should be. Don't get me wrong, the Japanese do extremely well too, but whenever anyone talks suspension...BMW always seems to be the standard. Another company that seems to have a hand in other car makers' suspensions is Lotus, and of course we know that Benz is tops too.
 
Honestly, I could go as far as saying that the suspension on the Genesis is as good as most that come from the Japanese makers and will hold up well against most American offerings as well. Of course I'm talking about cars of the same ilk as the Genesis.
 
However, the suspension must offer something good if the skid pad numbers were pretty darn good as it out performed a Benz E550 (0.89 g) & a BMW 550i (0.90 g) in dry cornering by posting a 0.94 g. It was also said to be on par with other performance sedans known for handling in regards to slalom testing. Check out the videos for yourself...
 
Hyundai Genesis Performance Videos
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Re: Professional opinions? [allmet33] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Mar 20, 2009 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 20, 2009 8:06 am)

All well and good but we've all probably been victim of "looks good on paper" and then we drive the car and it's a whole other sensation.
 
A skateboard gets excellent ratings on a skidpad I bet.

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