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Re: Professional opinions? [joe97] by donna388
Mar 18, 2009 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 18, 2009 6:32 pm)

Au contaire, I have read every one of and all of Bobs posts on every forum he
is on including the Hyundai 'Think Tank' where we are both members.
We don't see you there do we?
It is truly a shame that you do not know Bob as well as I do, in fact, you do not
know him at all. We have spent many productive hours talking one on one.
 
To his credit, Bob does try to present opinions from others that do criticize the Azeras'
suspension, so anyone can plainly see that what he says is simply not his opinion only.
 
Both of us have Azeras with the exact same problem, so we do in fact know all about them.
We both are on our third sets of factory shocks, so we both do have
as have several others here been through that suspension mill.
 
For you to compare the suspension of any Buick with the average Azera is ludicrous.
Buicks are a product of General Motors, and as such, there are no finer suspensions.
If Buick were to have produced such terrible suspension as our Azeras,
they'd have been history a long time ago.
 
Since some of the magazine writers are knocking the Genesis suspension,
why is it that you say that it is 'okay'?
 
Did you know that Hyundai is hard at work trying to fix those Genesis suspension problems?
I wonder why!
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Re: Professional opinions? [donna388] by joe97
Mar 18, 2009 (8:44 pm)
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Replying to: donna388 (Mar 18, 2009 7:04 pm)

Let me give you an example of his posts - this one he had referenced to the Genesis:
 
However, it appears many will not admit to problems or just don't understand how a luxury car is supposed to perform - in all categories.
 
Of course, just like the Azera, there are no merits whatsover, everything is bad; everyone has to comply with his opinions or else When was the last time he (or yourself) attributed one good thing about the Azera, for example?
 
It's not even about the suspension; he'd come in every month or so and bring his beef, yet he tells everyone his objective intent. Does the suspension alone account for the whole car? If he wanted to be objective, then be objective; go through the good and the bad, heck, even the Yugo had some good merits.
 
Oh by the way, if you'd think there are no finer suspensions than Buicks...well, trust me, there are
 
The Genesis rides/handles just fine for a luxury sedan, especially on highway and smooth surface. Again, I've said there are room for improvements, but certainly I've experienced nothing even remotely as scary as some of the stories made out to be, true of not.
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Re: Professional opinions? [joe97] by pat HOST
Mar 19, 2009 (2:39 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 18, 2009 8:44 pm)

Let's talk about the car instead of other posters, okay?
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Please remove me from the forum by bigearl1
Mar 19, 2009 (6:02 am)
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Re: Professional opinions? [donna388] by allmet33
Mar 19, 2009 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: donna388 (Mar 18, 2009 1:09 pm)

There are indeed those who are content with the ride, and that is fine as far as I
am concerned. If they like the wallowing, porpusing and unsafe bobbing about
from lack of proper jounce and rebound control, that's fine with me!

 
There are quite a few of us that are content with the ride because we don't experience the wallowing, porpusing and "unsafe" bobbing about from lack of proper jounce and rebound control.
 
What testers have said the Azera suspension was poor? I've read plenty of times where they said it could be better, but hardly poor.
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Again... by pat HOST
Mar 19, 2009 (7:14 am)
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We need to talk about the car and not other posters. If you want your post to stand, you need to keep that in mind.
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Re: Professional opinions? [joe97] by allmet33
Mar 19, 2009 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 18, 2009 8:44 pm)

heck, even the Yugo had some good merits he he he...yeah, it was disposable! At one point it was hard to believe that anything could come out and be worse than the Hyundai Excel. VOILA...Yugo!!!
 
Seriously...the Genesis is one of those cars either you like it or you don't. There's a few that want to like it, but because it's a Hyundai, they have to find fault with it. It actually seems like those posting about the Genesis suspension have actually driven one as opposed to how it was with the Azera. Yet, I know there's a few out there that are simply repeating what they've heard and have no first hand experience to draw from. Which really makes me wonder how someone could wrongly distort facts by saying the suspension was unsafe in any way, shape or form. Do you realize if it was truly unsafe, there would be investigations, forced recalls and more likely than not...media coverage of it (remember when the Suzuki Sidekicks were prone to tipping over)??? There is also nothing wrong with objective opinion when the truth and facts are stated, but again...you have folks that skew facts and bend truth to benefit their cause.
 
Then there are those that log in as multiple screen names to the same forum and make various negative postings to make the problem seem worse than it really is. There is one I suspect in this very forum just based on the way his posts are put together. Any forum I'm a part of, I use the same screen name for the purpose of consistency.
 
What really kills me in all this is that they bought the Genesis without seemingly taking it for a serious test drive. I'm sorry...a REAL test drive would have shown you any suspension discrepancies that would have put you on notice. How can you take a test drive an find nothing wrong, but a week after purchase...complain about the suspension??? Honestly, I think some of those people are tired of getting razzed by their friends and family for dropping +$35k for a Hyundai. Until someone else is paying my car note(s), I could care less what your thoughts are regarding the vehicles parked in my driveway.
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Re: Professional opinions? [allmet33] by donna388
Mar 19, 2009 (7:53 am)
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"To make a statement that there are no finer suspensions than those found in Buicks...
it really makes me question your automobile credibility."

 
I did not make that precise statement. What I did say was that GM as a group does make the finest suspensions which of course includes Buick. We should all be so lucky with the Azeras.
Read todays news: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090319/ap_on_bi_ge/autos_dependability;_ylt=AohkBmy- d5zfqztBeL7zIm9934T0D
Surprise surprise. Buick is on top.
Read the entire article. You will not find any Hyundai product even mentioned!
 
Why do you criticize me? Weren't you the one that just had only one strut replaced recently? Your Azera suspension is great, but you allowed your fine dealer to replace only one side? How is that balanced? That's like relining the brakes on one side only.
A new strut on one side and the other side has over 60K miles on it!
 
Most of us have 'normal tastes' and do not consider 20 inch wheels and extremely low profile sidewall tires the proper way to go. With sidewalls that short, the ride must be rather stiff.
If that's your thing, that's fine with me, but that combination surely changes
the stock ride doesn't it? I do not expect you to admit that little fact!
 
"Some life you have there to follow another poster around to every single forum he
may be a part of AND take the time to read every single one of his posts.
Does that make you an authority on the Azera suspension or on Carolinabob?"

 
I have the time thank you, for unlike you, I am retired and not at work. What I do with my time is none of your business. Who is to say that maybe he follows me around. You read his posts too, and as a matter of fact you probably spend much more time on these forums that I do.
You post more than Bob and I do combined, although most of your post are meaningless.
How many posts have you made compared to the combined totals of Bob and I?
Of course I am not an authority on Bob, or anyone else for that matter.
I do know considerably more about him that you do because, unlike you, I have
spent many many hours speaking with him. Have you ever spoken to Bob?
 
As far as being an authority on the Azera suspension, I've got you beat there, having been
back to the agency now six time for that same problem over the last 18 months.
Can you rattle off all the shock part numbers from memory as I can? I thought not!
Based on that fact is how my ownership of this otherwise almost perfect car
will terminate shortly under California's Sony-Beverly (Lemon Law) act.
 
Like many others here, I do know all about the problems with the Azera suspension.
Many here including yourself are happy with their Azeras suspension. I am not one.
That's why I am 'jumping ship.'
 
Carry on and enjoy!
 
 
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Re: Professional opinions? [donna388] by joe97
Mar 19, 2009 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: donna388 (Mar 19, 2009 7:53 am)

GM makes the finest suspension? I can't stop laughing here.
 
Read todays news: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090319/ap_on_bi_ge/autos_dependability;_ylt=AohkBmy- - d5zfqztBeL7zIm9934T0D
Surprise surprise. Buick is on top.
Read the entire article. You will not find any Hyundai product even mentioned!

 
Hyundai is at 161, much better than last year's showing, at 200 last year, for comparison.
 

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