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Professional opinions? [joe97] by donna388
Mar 18, 2009 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 17, 2009 4:47 pm)

Don't know about others including yourself, but those of us that do own an Azera and are
not happy with the suspension have every right to gripe about it as often as we like.
 
There are indeed those who are content with the ride, and that is fine as far as I
am concerned. If they like the wallowing, porpusing and unsafe bobbing about
from lack of proper jounce and rebound control, that's fine with me!
 
Professional testers have commented on the poor suspension numerous
times, so I leave it up to them. For me, I am not happy with our Azera.
We suffer from it's ride every time we go anywhere.
 
Won't be suffering for too much longer according to my Lemon Law Attorney.
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Re: Professional opinions? [donna388] by joe97
Mar 18, 2009 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: donna388 (Mar 18, 2009 1:09 pm)

I'd guess you don't read bob's posts often.
 
He comes off pleading his case as if he's been somehow trying to provide objective info to those seeking them, yet the suspension has been the only item he has posted, post after post. He has referred to his sources as authoritative, yet those sources have provided both the positive and the negative. Any backside agenda aside, if he was trying to be objective, then he would have provided both sides of the story.
 
Yes, I understand the suspension is not a strong suit of Hyundai vehicle; I also understand the fact any cars built by humans are not always perfect, and this applies to all brands, so yes, certain owners may get bad apples, and that is very unfortunate. Still, I believe Hyundai's suspension system is at least adequate for the intent of its vehicles. I haven't driven an Azera in a while but have had many hours of seat time in the Genesis - of course it doesn't handle like a 5er, and I didn't expect to, for a luxury sedan and all. FWIW, most professional mags have commented similarily. As for the Azera, I've found it to be a better Buick, and that was exactly what I expected going in (most of the cars in the class drives like that).
 
Certainly there are improvements Hyundai can make, no doubt.
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Re: Professional opinions? [joe97] by donna388
Mar 18, 2009 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 18, 2009 6:32 pm)

Au contaire, I have read every one of and all of Bobs posts on every forum he
is on including the Hyundai 'Think Tank' where we are both members.
We don't see you there do we?
It is truly a shame that you do not know Bob as well as I do, in fact, you do not
know him at all. We have spent many productive hours talking one on one.
 
To his credit, Bob does try to present opinions from others that do criticize the Azeras'
suspension, so anyone can plainly see that what he says is simply not his opinion only.
 
Both of us have Azeras with the exact same problem, so we do in fact know all about them.
We both are on our third sets of factory shocks, so we both do have
as have several others here been through that suspension mill.
 
For you to compare the suspension of any Buick with the average Azera is ludicrous.
Buicks are a product of General Motors, and as such, there are no finer suspensions.
If Buick were to have produced such terrible suspension as our Azeras,
they'd have been history a long time ago.
 
Since some of the magazine writers are knocking the Genesis suspension,
why is it that you say that it is 'okay'?
 
Did you know that Hyundai is hard at work trying to fix those Genesis suspension problems?
I wonder why!
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Re: Professional opinions? [donna388] by joe97
Mar 18, 2009 (8:44 pm)
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Replying to: donna388 (Mar 18, 2009 7:04 pm)

Let me give you an example of his posts - this one he had referenced to the Genesis:
 
However, it appears many will not admit to problems or just don't understand how a luxury car is supposed to perform - in all categories.
 
Of course, just like the Azera, there are no merits whatsover, everything is bad; everyone has to comply with his opinions or else When was the last time he (or yourself) attributed one good thing about the Azera, for example?
 
It's not even about the suspension; he'd come in every month or so and bring his beef, yet he tells everyone his objective intent. Does the suspension alone account for the whole car? If he wanted to be objective, then be objective; go through the good and the bad, heck, even the Yugo had some good merits.
 
Oh by the way, if you'd think there are no finer suspensions than Buicks...well, trust me, there are
 
The Genesis rides/handles just fine for a luxury sedan, especially on highway and smooth surface. Again, I've said there are room for improvements, but certainly I've experienced nothing even remotely as scary as some of the stories made out to be, true of not.
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Re: Professional opinions? [joe97] by pat HOST
Mar 19, 2009 (2:39 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 18, 2009 8:44 pm)

Let's talk about the car instead of other posters, okay?
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Please remove me from the forum by bigearl1
Mar 19, 2009 (6:02 am)
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Thanks
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Re: Professional opinions? [donna388] by allmet33
Mar 19, 2009 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: donna388 (Mar 18, 2009 1:09 pm)

There are indeed those who are content with the ride, and that is fine as far as I
am concerned. If they like the wallowing, porpusing and unsafe bobbing about
from lack of proper jounce and rebound control, that's fine with me!

 
There are quite a few of us that are content with the ride because we don't experience the wallowing, porpusing and "unsafe" bobbing about from lack of proper jounce and rebound control.
 
What testers have said the Azera suspension was poor? I've read plenty of times where they said it could be better, but hardly poor.
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Again... by pat HOST
Mar 19, 2009 (7:14 am)
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We need to talk about the car and not other posters. If you want your post to stand, you need to keep that in mind.
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Re: Professional opinions? [joe97] by allmet33
Mar 19, 2009 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Mar 18, 2009 8:44 pm)

heck, even the Yugo had some good merits he he he...yeah, it was disposable! At one point it was hard to believe that anything could come out and be worse than the Hyundai Excel. VOILA...Yugo!!!
 
Seriously...the Genesis is one of those cars either you like it or you don't. There's a few that want to like it, but because it's a Hyundai, they have to find fault with it. It actually seems like those posting about the Genesis suspension have actually driven one as opposed to how it was with the Azera. Yet, I know there's a few out there that are simply repeating what they've heard and have no first hand experience to draw from. Which really makes me wonder how someone could wrongly distort facts by saying the suspension was unsafe in any way, shape or form. Do you realize if it was truly unsafe, there would be investigations, forced recalls and more likely than not...media coverage of it (remember when the Suzuki Sidekicks were prone to tipping over)??? There is also nothing wrong with objective opinion when the truth and facts are stated, but again...you have folks that skew facts and bend truth to benefit their cause.
 
Then there are those that log in as multiple screen names to the same forum and make various negative postings to make the problem seem worse than it really is. There is one I suspect in this very forum just based on the way his posts are put together. Any forum I'm a part of, I use the same screen name for the purpose of consistency.
 
What really kills me in all this is that they bought the Genesis without seemingly taking it for a serious test drive. I'm sorry...a REAL test drive would have shown you any suspension discrepancies that would have put you on notice. How can you take a test drive an find nothing wrong, but a week after purchase...complain about the suspension??? Honestly, I think some of those people are tired of getting razzed by their friends and family for dropping +$35k for a Hyundai. Until someone else is paying my car note(s), I could care less what your thoughts are regarding the vehicles parked in my driveway.

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