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Re: L640's installed yesterday by budh
Sep 27, 2008 (10:06 pm)
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So if I purchased a 2009 Azera, or a 2008 Azera made with a build date in November 2007 or later, would the shocks be part number 54611-3L640?
 
(The reason I ask is that I was in negotiations on a 2008 Azera Limited yesterday and mentioned one criteria was that the shocks would need to be those new 640s or it would be no deal.)
 
Bud H
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Front and rear L640 shocks [budh] by donna388
Sep 28, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: budh (Sep 27, 2008 10:06 pm)

Bud, you have the right idea. Good thinking. The answer to your question is yes.
 
The build date in located low on the pillar between the drivers door and the rear door.
The build date on the car you are considering must be October 20, 2007 or later
to have the latest shocks, and if it is not, have them change all four shocks
to the later parts, 54611-3L640 for the front and 55311-3L640 for the rear.
 
If that Azera was built before that date and they will not change
all four shocks to those part numbers, you know what to do.
Good luck with your purchase and keep us posted please.
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1000 mile update after installing 640 Shocks by oskidunker1
Oct 10, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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I agree with you. After about 1000 miles the ride is not so good. I have to slow down to 60 on the bad stretch of road I go on every day for about 3 miles. The car is fine 95% of the time but you do have to slow down on bouncy roads. I would not buy the car again.I had hoped to keep this car until the 100,000 mile warrranty was over. Perhaps someone will develope a shock that will last. I would be willing to pay for it.I suspect the springs are so bad they destroy any shock you would put in, but I do not know.Still like the car, though.
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2008 Azera; No problems at all. by dcrobbie22041
Oct 12, 2008 (10:20 pm)
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From what I've seen on here and heard from a user, my 2008 Azera was built after the time of the shock problems.
 
Thank God I don't have any issues with it yet (4400 miles since July 11). Took a nice road trip of 150 miles just today. Thanks again that the Azera seems to be an absolute better car than the '01 XG300 I traded in for it EVER was. The XG300 was in the shop every couple of months for BS stuff. Despite the warranty covering most of it, it was still a hellish inconvenience to have to take it in so often.
 
I got complete validation when the salesman who sold me the '08 Azera said that he was ashamed to have sold any XG's to anybody. Oy vey!!!!!!!!
 
As far as performance goes, I agree that even the 2008 Azera's suspension can bottom-out in severe road bumps and dips when driving around DC and Northern Virginia at city/suburban speeds. Particularly when you hit a large bump or dip that you don't know is there.
 
People have to remember that it's supposed to be a luxury car NOT a sports car (despite performing like one when you punch the pedal) I've taken her to 130mph on an open road where I knew I would get away with it -- of course, after break-in was over. The suspension and driving control get MUCH tighter when traveling at that speed. Around town, however, she's got in-town characteristics. Feel the bumps and dips, just like in the XG.
 
Maybe BETTER shocks, the weight of the car, more solidness and the fact that she's new. SMOOTH AS SILK (just like Thai Airways) for the most part.
 
Beware the Genesis until she's proven herself. Anyway, the V6 Genesis is jut a pimped out version of the Azzy. Same engine, but slight body, interior and control settings (plus rear wheel drive -- another Hyundai first that probably needs lots of real world performance). Trust me, my experience with first-year offered '01 XG 300 was enough to teach me this.
 
Cheers, R.
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Re: 2008 Azera; No problems at all. [dcrobbie22041] by carolinabob
Oct 13, 2008 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: dcrobbie22041 (Oct 12, 2008 10:20 pm)

Good luck with your 2008. At about 250-300 miles, my new L640 shocks began to deteriorate or at least the ride did. Car is now pretty much back to what it was before the 3rd set of shocks installed. It is apparent that the suspension is poorly designed for anything but near perfect roads and more than just shocks are needed. Of course, Hyundai could contract with a shock manufacturer to come up with something better perhaps.
    Based on reviews in Oct. Car and Driver and Auotmobile Magazine re: the Genesis suspension, I would definitely wait for a lot of real world reporting on how th car holds up.
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my pickup truck by jasonsazera
Feb 09, 2009 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Oct 13, 2008 11:13 am)

my azera is in the shop right now. it took almost a week to work it out with the dealer. i do windshield repair there so the service manager i think finally pulled a string for me. really i think not knowing them and going in there with determination instead of finesse would have been about as helpful but i'm not about to bite the hand that feeds me.
 
anyways, here is my assessment of the car. many here say the springs are too soft. i laugh at that. my god, this is the roughest riding car i've ever been in. my ram takes our driveway better than our azera does. what the hecks up with that? dont worn out shocks make a car more bouncy. maybe its "busy" i'm feeling, not so much stiff. anyways, i'll know if it rides better in a few days. i'm pretty sure they're replacing the shocks with 041. i sure would hate to see me going from 040 (not sure what i have now) to 041 and gaining the "clunk" noise everyone complains about. at least it would ride softer right? is there still a clunking noise in part 041 or has that been fixed since hopefully all the bad shocks have been used up and the most recent ones are upgraded? or should i go back to the dealer and request 640?
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Re: my pickup truck [jasonsazera] by richardcot
Feb 11, 2009 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: jasonsazera (Feb 09, 2009 7:40 pm)

Jason, it may ride a little softer at first but in less than a couple thousand miles the shocks will wear out and you'll be back to square one. At least that has been my experience going from the 041 to 040. I've read the same about the 640. On the other Hyundai forum site there is a guy who claims to have fixed the clunk by tightening somes bolt in the suspension.
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Our Azera shocks . . [jasonsazera] by donna388
Feb 12, 2009 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: jasonsazera (Feb 09, 2009 7:40 pm)

I hope you have better luck than we've had.
Our Azera has had all three sets of available shocks installed.
I does not matter, as they all have failed and do not properly control the unwanted motions of the car.
 
Doesn't matter which part numbers are used. You most likely had 040s and the TSB calls for them to be replaced with 041s. Many dealers will try and have you believe that the latest current shocks, the 640s being installed now in the new cars will not fit, but that is not true.
You can verify what shocks your car has originally by simply looking at the bottom of the rear shocks. All Azeras have the same last three numbers both front and rear.
The complete rear number on either rear shock will be 55311-3L040.
Your original front shock number would have been 54611-3L040.
 
It does not matter, as shortly after all those different parts numbers were installed,
our car shortly went back to its old ways. I hope that yours does not do that.
But look for that to happen before too long. It will seem fine at first, and you'll probably be a happy camper, but before too long . .
One fellow in SC could tell before he had 1000 miles on his new 640s that
they were turning out the same as the two previous sets.
 
Keep us posted.
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Re: Genesis just a "pimped-out Azera" [dcrobbie22041] by tonycd
Feb 13, 2009 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: dcrobbie22041 (Oct 12, 2008 10:20 pm)

DCRobbie says,
 
"Beware the Genesis until she's proven herself. Anyway, the V6 Genesis is jut a pimped out version of the Azzy. Same engine, but slight body, interior and control settings (plus rear wheel drive -- another Hyundai first that probably needs lots of real world performance). Trust me, my experience with first-year offered '01 XG 300 was enough to teach me this."
 
Although I sympathize with DC's problems with his '01 XG 300, his statement about the Genesis is not accurate. I will repeat my post from last June:
 
Replying to: sripton (Jun 07, 2008 11:50 am)
 
"Screw the genesis it's price is rising and its really just a pimped azera."
  
Just in case this thread is being viewed by anyone new to this topic, the comment above is 100% inaccurate. The Azera is a stretched and upgraded version of the front-wheel-drive Sonata midsize chassis, and the Genesis is an all-new sedan built for front engine and rear drive.
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Re: Your Azera's rough ride [jasonsazera] by tonycd
Feb 13, 2009 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: jasonsazera (Feb 09, 2009 7:40 pm)

There's a good deal of debate about the source of the suspension problem. The most common, and most plausible, theory seems to be this:
 
Ideally, it's the job of the springs -- not the shocks -- to hold up the car. The shocks are only supposed to arrest the motion of the springs so you don't go over the same bump twice. (Hence the "jump on the bumper" test to check for worn shocks.) A good Accord often doesn't need new shocks in the whole life of the car. Part of the reason is the quality of the parts, but another big part of it is that the suspension's basic architecture (shared by the Azera) doesn't burden the shocks with holding the car up...in theory.
 
The problem with the Azera seems to be that Hyundai has specified springs that are too soft. The apparent reason for this is that the Azera is not just a U.S. offering. It plays a much larger role for Hyundai as its home-market luxury sedan, and Korean roads are terrible, which is why Hyundais in general are suspended too softly for American tastes. The too-soft springs allow too much up-and-down motion and bottoming, which quickly trashes the shocks. The resulting uncontrolled bottoming and rattling of unrestrained suspension parts is the rough ride you speak of.
 
The only permanent answer to this problem appears to be an aftermarket set of "coil-over" shocks, available as an aftermarket set of four from a Korean online importer for about $1,200 (plus installation, of course). The "coil-over" name refers to a supplementary coil spring around each shock, which seems to address the basic problem. Needless to say, a fix this expensive is not for everyone, but at least one poster on the other Azera forum site who tried it seemed to really like its performance. If you like the other aspects of your Azera enough for this cost to be worth your while, I'd try it.

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