Last post on Nov 28, 2006 at 11:11 PM
You are in the Honda Civic
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Honda Civic, Coupe, Sedan
#7 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [bf109ace]
Oct 05, 2006 (10:57 am)
Good Points and I agree. A quick small RWD VTEC would be a good seller. I have the S2000 and it is awesome! Got a really funny survey call about it last night, thet steered the converstion to why I bought it instead of a Cayman LO> Never considered Cayman.
If the TL Type S were switched to RWD maybe. But you are right even the Lexus IS350 out performs it for the same cost.
Again I say, Acura needs a new forward thinking strategy department ansd/or marketing department. Myoptic vision killed the railroads.
#8 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [midnightcowboy]
Oct 05, 2006 (11:44 am)
Good suggestions. Hopefully, Acura will listen to its potential customers and get some really nice products out.
Acura has a nice track record of reliability. They have the technological know-how. In order to compete with BMW even Lexus, they have to come up with some dramatic changes in marketing/models. Come one, Lexus has the GS since many years ago. Acura hasn't come up with a solution to compete tiwh BMW M series, Mecedez AMG, and Lexus GS.
Something doesn't make sense here. How about using their new turbo in a 'new Integrra' like the Audi A3/4 and BMW 335i?
#9 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [bf109ace]
Nov 16, 2006 (12:23 pm)
Back to the subject on hand....as much as i LOVE the way the euro civics and the type r included look, i don't think there is any real need for one here: our si is a superior machine. The euro civic type r has no real significant increase in horsepower over our si...i belive its only about 11 and maybe a pound or two of torque. Plus it's suspension is inferior, we have multilink independent, the type r has a TORSION BEAM of all things. And it still keeps the bi-level in your face speedo that all of our civics and all of the european civics currently have. The one thing it has going for is is this: in my opinon it looks awesome. But then again i don't think the current si is bad looking, i think it looks very very nice. (granted my favorite civic of all time was the 02-05 type r in the uk that looked like a meaner version of our 02-05 si with hid headlights, a six speed manual and the 2.0 k series that currently resides in our new si.) But this type r looks stunning. But i feel like it would be subject to the same critizicm that all si's in the past have undergone; it's a hatch, its too dramatic blah blah blah. I think its beautiful and i'd by one but i'd have trouble accepting its rear suspension. The other thing they have going for it is that there is a version in which various anemities have been taken out, a sort of stripper if you will, significantly reducing weight and allowing it to accelerate fairly briskly.
#10 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [bf109ace]
Nov 16, 2006 (12:25 pm)
They have. It's called type s. But it doesn't really cut it when compared to mercedes amg, lexus gs and the m series. I think honda/acura prides itself on the naturally aspirated engine and to put a turbo in a not-too-expensive vehicle would distinguish them less in the game.
#11 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [bf109ace]
Nov 16, 2006 (12:31 pm)
I just realized that the type r in the paris show that you referred to (and the one that i'm talking about) is completely different than hondas new type r. Although they do feature the new type r on the uk website, the one that you can read complete specs on is the older type r that resides in the chassis of OUR old civic si hatchback. I realized this because you said it has classic gauges. That type r does, but the brand new one has the same bi-level dash set up.
#12 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [bf109ace]
Nov 28, 2006 (11:11 pm)
I would by the Civic if it were a hatch back. C'mon Honda...put that forward looking machine on our Civic chasis. You better do some fresh research into what the new market here is.