Ask the Car People.SM


Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.?

12 messages,  Last post on Nov 29, 2006 at 12:11 AM

You are in the Honda Civic Forum.

What is this discussion about? Honda Civic, Coupe, Sedan

Messages Page 2 of 2

#6 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [midnightcowboy] by bf109ace

Oct 05, 2006 (11:30 am)

Replying to: midnightcowboy (Oct 05, 2006 10:06 am)
Why cannot Acura come up with a RWD Integra Type sports car with VTEC and 6-speed? They have the know-how (Honda S2000) but just choose not to do it.
 
They cannot just add more HP to the TL Type-S and expect a jump in performance. Torque steering with too much power in FWD. It would be 'stupid' to pay $40k getting a TL Type-S when you can pay pretty much the same and get a BMW 335i with twin-turbo. None of the Acura offering is in the same class as the 335i not to mention the M3/M5/M6.
 
BTW, why not introduce a 2-seater coupe/convertible as Lexus did (SC430)? Acura simply has too little choices of models and varities.

#7 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [bf109ace] by midnightcowboy

Oct 05, 2006 (11:57 am)

Replying to: bf109ace (Oct 05, 2006 11:30 am)
bf109ace,
 
Good Points and I agree. A quick small RWD VTEC would be a good seller. I have the S2000 and it is awesome! Got a really funny survey call about it last night, thet steered the converstion to why I bought it instead of a Cayman LO> Never considered Cayman.
 
If the TL Type S were switched to RWD maybe. But you are right even the Lexus IS350 out performs it for the same cost.
 
Again I say, Acura needs a new forward thinking strategy department ansd/or marketing department. Myoptic vision killed the railroads.
 
MidCow.

#8 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [midnightcowboy] by bf109ace

Oct 05, 2006 (12:44 pm)

Replying to: midnightcowboy (Oct 05, 2006 11:57 am)
Good suggestions. Hopefully, Acura will listen to its potential customers and get some really nice products out.
 
Acura has a nice track record of reliability. They have the technological know-how. In order to compete with BMW even Lexus, they have to come up with some dramatic changes in marketing/models. Come one, Lexus has the GS since many years ago. Acura hasn't come up with a solution to compete tiwh BMW M series, Mecedez AMG, and Lexus GS.
 
Something doesn't make sense here. How about using their new turbo in a 'new Integrra' like the Audi A3/4 and BMW 335i?

#9 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [bf109ace] by eldaino

Nov 16, 2006 (1:23 pm)

Replying to: bf109ace (Oct 05, 2006 6:56 am)
Back to the subject on hand....as much as i LOVE the way the euro civics and the type r included look, i don't think there is any real need for one here: our si is a superior machine. The euro civic type r has no real significant increase in horsepower over our si...i belive its only about 11 and maybe a pound or two of torque. Plus it's suspension is inferior, we have multilink independent, the type r has a TORSION BEAM of all things. And it still keeps the bi-level in your face speedo that all of our civics and all of the european civics currently have. The one thing it has going for is is this: in my opinon it looks awesome. But then again i don't think the current si is bad looking, i think it looks very very nice. (granted my favorite civic of all time was the 02-05 type r in the uk that looked like a meaner version of our 02-05 si with hid headlights, a six speed manual and the 2.0 k series that currently resides in our new si.) But this type r looks stunning. But i feel like it would be subject to the same critizicm that all si's in the past have undergone; it's a hatch, its too dramatic blah blah blah. I think its beautiful and i'd by one but i'd have trouble accepting its rear suspension. The other thing they have going for it is that there is a version in which various anemities have been taken out, a sort of stripper if you will, significantly reducing weight and allowing it to accelerate fairly briskly.

#10 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [bf109ace] by eldaino

Nov 16, 2006 (1:25 pm)

Replying to: bf109ace (Oct 05, 2006 12:44 pm)
They have. It's called type s. But it doesn't really cut it when compared to mercedes amg, lexus gs and the m series. I think honda/acura prides itself on the naturally aspirated engine and to put a turbo in a not-too-expensive vehicle would distinguish them less in the game.

#11 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [bf109ace] by eldaino

Nov 16, 2006 (1:31 pm)

Replying to: bf109ace (Oct 04, 2006 7:54 am)
I just realized that the type r in the paris show that you referred to (and the one that i'm talking about) is completely different than hondas new type r. Although they do feature the new type r on the uk website, the one that you can read complete specs on is the older type r that resides in the chassis of OUR old civic si hatchback. I realized this because you said it has classic gauges. That type r does, but the brand new one has the same bi-level dash set up.

#12 of 12 Re: Honda Civic Type-R - Why Cannot We Have it in the U.S.? [bf109ace] by bfish1

Nov 29, 2006 (12:11 am)

Replying to: bf109ace (Oct 04, 2006 7:54 am)
I would by the Civic if it were a hatch back. C'mon Honda...put that forward looking machine on our Civic chasis. You better do some fresh research into what the new market here is.

Messages Page 2 of 2

To POST a message, please Sign In.

Advertisement

Browse by Category

Browse by Vehicle
   View All Vehicles

Browse by Board
Browse by Topic
View All Topics

Edmunds Community

Advertisement