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Acura MDX vs. BMW X5

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Re: MDX has hard drivers seat [anon3] by gagrice
Mar 20, 2007 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: anon3 (Mar 19, 2007 10:47 am)

Sadly I could not find a salesman at BMW of San Diego to let me sit in an X5. I wandered through the showroom and lot. I may find a year old 4.4 with low miles. Save that initial hit out the door. They seem to be nice vehicles. I need to drive one for myself to be sure I like the seats. I am disappointed in some of the trends in vehicles.
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11 BMWs in 10 years by choiski
Mar 21, 2007 (11:33 am)
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Wow. I wish I could afford 11 BMW's. It sounds like you don't necessarily keep a car long enough to experience the long term problems, or go out of warranty. Or again, you might be lucky... see below.
 
To contrast with anon3, I've had 1 Mercedes ML320 in almost 10 years, and frankly, it's been very reliable. Now, if you check Consumer Reports, Edmunds, and every forum, you'll easily find out that the Mercedes is the junkiest piece of c**p out there. Is there something wrong there? No, it's just my dumb luck. But I'm not about to push it again. I'm expecting to keep my next car 10 years. And that's why I'm buying the MDX.
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Re: 11 BMWs in 10 years [choiski] by gagrice
Mar 22, 2007 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: choiski (Mar 21, 2007 11:33 am)

I would go sit in and drive the new MDX. If you are used to the ML320 seats you will probably hate the seats in the new MDX. Felt like 1/2 inch of foam on a piece of plywood.
 
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Welcome to the Forum.
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Own an 01 4.4 X5 - moving to another vehicle. by kaia1
Mar 27, 2007 (8:42 am)
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In the process of trading our car in. And we're confused. Looking at Acura MDX, Volvo XC90, and Audi Q7. Safety is my primary concern. We're a family of 4 and planning on adding another child in the next year - so we'll need three carseats.
 
I'm concerned about what was in the above thread about the MDX 3rd row being in the crumple zone.
 
Any thoughts on the 3 vehicles are considering? X5 is out b/c of price. Audi is obviously more expensive than the volvo or MDX. Price is a concern but safety and handling come first.
 
Thanks, Kai
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Re: Own an 01 4.4 X5 - moving to another vehicle. [kaia1] by varmint
Mar 27, 2007 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: kaia1 (Mar 27, 2007 8:42 am)

That's a tall order. There are many ways to compare safety. Let's start off by asking if you've covered the basics and gone to the NHTSA and IIHS pages? Did you compare the raw data or just the "stars" and rankings?
 
"I'm concerned about what was in the above thread about the MDX 3rd row being in the crumple zone."
 
Consider the source. That's something a BMW sales person told a potential buyer. I have no idea if that information is correct or not, but I have treat it with a very healthy does of skepticism.
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Re: Own an 01 4.4 X5 - moving to another vehicle. [varmint] by justg0
Mar 27, 2007 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: varmint (Mar 27, 2007 9:14 am)

I saw this on wikipedia regarding Acura MDX rear safety:
 
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The MDX is ahead of the competition with regards to its construction in rear collisions: It will withstand a rear collision up to 50 miles an hour, well above the the basic 35 mph standard currently required by the NHTSA.[citation needed]

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_MDX
 
Again, I don't have any data from a credible source to back this statement up, so take it for what it is.
 
BTW, do check out the next issue of Car and Driver (I think May) - they have a SUV comparison and rate 07 MDX #1.
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Re: Own an 01 4.4 X5 - moving to another vehicle. [justg0] by varmint
Mar 28, 2007 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: justg0 (Mar 27, 2007 12:27 pm)

Who cares if the vehicle can withstand a 50mph collision, what about the occupants!?!? Questions like that make it very difficult to put all the information into proper perspective.
 
Looking at the raw data, it looks like the MDX ranks above the XC90 and Q7 when it comes to rollover tests. However, the XC90 does have a very nice anti-roll system built into the stability control programming. Then again, the MDX is the only one where the stability control ECU can route power via SH-AWD as well as use the brakes to stabilize the vehicle. Who can say which method is more effective?
 
In a rear crash, the IIHS ranks the XC90 higher than the MDX, and the Q7 is untested. But that test looks only at whiplash, not motion of the whole body or resistance to intrusion.
 
With the NHTSA and IIHS front and side impacts all of these rigs do well. Looking at the raw data you'll probably find only the difference between an A grade and an A+. At that point, we're starting to split hairs.
 
While safety is king, I'd probably let other factors dictate my choice between these three. They're all safe. Or, as safe as we can tell with the limited data available.
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Re: Own an 01 4.4 X5 - moving to another vehicle. [kaia1] by teamyonex
Mar 29, 2007 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: kaia1 (Mar 27, 2007 8:42 am)

Three kids in car seats and you're thinking of putting them in some marketing geniuses idea of a third row seat? If you are truly concerned with safety, handling, AND practicality, I have one word: MINIVAN. If that's not the answer, try a Suburban, Escalade ESV or the like. The nifty little European jobbies your citing don't make any sense.
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May '07 Car and Driver Comparison by anon3
Apr 03, 2007 (6:05 am)
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The May edition of Car and Driver contains a comparison test of 8 luxury SUVs. The MDX took first place and the X5 3.0si took 3rd behind the Cadillac SRX V-8 and the MDX. The X5 was dinged for being heavy (they're right, it is too heavy), under powered (they're right, 260hp is not enough by today's standards when the competition is pushing 300hp), and they whine unnecessarily about the electronic shifter (move over i-Drive, now the automotive press has another BMW gizmo to complain about). They also had an X5 with the 3rd row seat and without the sport package, so it was heavier and didn't have the improved suspension.
 
It looks like Acura has done a nice job with the MDX, although I still wouldn't buy one for the following reasons: 1) there's no V-8 option, 2) the exterior is plain and unattractive, and 3) the MDX is the mini-van of my area: there's a sea of MDXs at every soccer game, grocery store, and private school pick up area. I'm not into mini-vans.
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Re: May '07 Car and Driver Comparison [anon3] by varmint
Apr 04, 2007 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: anon3 (Apr 03, 2007 6:05 am)

What I can't figure is why C&D loves the SRX so much. It's ballsy with the V8 and it does handle well, but my attraction for it stops there. The interior is so-so. Comfort and utility are sub-par. And it isn't the most tight vehicle I've experienced.

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