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Mazda MAZDA5, Tires, Wheels, Wagon
#161 of 196 Re: DISAPPOINTED OWNER of Mazda 5 [jarek67]
Mar 22, 2011 (1:21 pm)
yup. Like I've reported here, too, aftermarket shocks and good tires fix these problems. Having the dealership replace under warranty only guarantees the problem will return.
#162 of 196 Re: DISAPPOINTED OWNER of Mazda 5 [qbrozen]
Mar 22, 2011 (3:05 pm)
I am sorry that I didn't mention that I bought the car used with 26000 miles. Could you tell me the brand and where you got the shocks? I wonder if you know if I can change the tires to a different size? Do the rims need to be changed with new size tires? Thanks.
#163 of 196 Re: DISAPPOINTED OWNER of Mazda 5 [jarek67]
Mar 23, 2011 (11:33 am)
You can change tire size slightly without changing the wheels. I know from experience, however, that there is very little room to play with. At one point, I put a set of 225/55 tires I had leftover from another vehicle and they rubbed. So I don't suggest pushing it past 215/50.
I had managed to come across a good deal on a new set of Kumho KH25s on Ebay. 205/50/17 for, I believe, around $265. This was back in the Fall.
For the shocks, I picked up a set of Monroe (part number 5607). They don't show as being compatible with anything past 2008, but I can assure you they work. The suspension did not change between '08 and '09 or even 2010.
#164 of 196 Is there a tire that will wear on the Mazda5?
Aug 04, 2011 (9:40 pm)
We live in upstate NY...we have a 2008 Mazda5 with 50,000 miles on it, and love it except for the unexpected yearly tire expenses. In the 3 years we have had it, we have had to put 8 new tires on it...ie, we are getting about a year on them....which is only about 16,000 miles each. The first set were the Toyos that came with it, annd then we went to Hankook, as suggested by the dealer for increased tread wear...and while better, it's hardly what i'd consider acceptable. My wife drives it primarily with our two kids...so we are not whipping around in it. We did, by the wa, purchase snow tires, which do make a big difference in the winter...and i was hoping would also help to extend the life of the non-winter tires....but no significant difference there.
What can I do? Tires suggestions? Any other suggestions? This is really getting to be frustrating and difficult to afford. Any help would be appreciated.
Aug 05, 2011 (4:39 am)
First off neither of those companies makes a decent tire. If you don't want to keep doing this AND you don't want to do any suspension work (where the problem is) go to Tirerack.com and find the HARDEST, longest wear rated tire you can and hope for the best. It will probably be a Michelin.
The REAL solution is to figure out HOW tghe tires are wearing and then what part of the suspension is causing the problem. It isn't like the car is so heavy you can't get a tire to hold up and even if you were throwing the car around there ae tires that would take that.
I have changed all the suspension and haven't had tire wear issues - fortunately and I do drive a bit aggressively in corners. It is WAY fun now!
Among other things you probably have camber issues.
#166 of 196 Re: Tire Wear [larry8061]
Aug 05, 2011 (9:06 pm)
Larry - was this in response to my post inquiring about better lasting tires for our mazda5? If so, do you know much about the Kumho Ecsta LX Platinum(Grand Touring All-Season)? I found in on tire rack...600 A A, for $110 each.
Aug 07, 2011 (5:55 am)
Yes, my reply was to your post. I am not a big fan of Kumho however, the 600 is a good number but, remember the manufacturer assigns its own numbers. See how they get reviewed.
What is the dealer telling you why the tires aren't lasting? And how are they wearing? Is it front AND rears?
#168 of 196 Re: New tires! [speddy]
Aug 07, 2011 (10:26 am)
Mazda 5s need adjustable camber kits in the back.
My car is still under warranty and have raised quited the stink about how the tires were cupping severely after 40,000 km even after rotating them.
Car was driving loudly and there was a "thump, thumping" in the back.
Took it into the dealership and they said it needed new tires due to cupping. They said it needed an alignment, but that one had just been done.
They wanted me to buy new tires even though the alignment was off. That didn't make sense to me, seeing how the problem would just occur again. That sense of illogical thinking sent me online to research the car and the alignment problems. I called the dealership on this strange line of thinking and they told me that they they have been researching solutions about this for some time and a lot of people are having problems. Well, why didn't they tell me about this? They said that there was a "non-Mazda" part (adjustable camber kit) that would fix the problem and that it would cost me $600.
NO WAY was I going to pay for something Mazda should be addressing and fixing.
After a week of waiting, the dealership said they would fix it under warranty by putting in a new right adjustable camber kit and aligning it 2 times to get the numbers right.
I do still have to buy new tires, so in the same situation as you are, but the even sadder thing is there a lot of Mazda owners out there that this will happen to and won't know what to do.
Get it fixed, under warranty and raise a fuss!
Mazda Canada should step up and recall their cars to fix them.
#169 of 196 Re: Tire Wear [larry8061]
Aug 07, 2011 (4:53 pm)
You mention that you "changed all the suspension." Was there any one or two components that seemed to produce the best tire wear results?
Our front tires wear quite fast which makes sense since all the weight is over the front tires. However, the wear is even.
Currently we're running Kumho Ecsta ASXs. We might actually get around 20k or 25k out of these.
It still sucks as far as I'm concerned. With our other vehicles (2000 Tracker and a very disappointing '98 Malibu) we were getting >50k out of a set of tires.
We dumped the piece-of-trash Malibu for the Mazda. Except for the tire wear issue, it's been a big improvement.
#170 of 196 Re: Tire Wear [gnuguy]
Aug 08, 2011 (7:25 am)
There has been a LOT of posting on here about each persons particular problem with tire wear. The one thread that caught my attention is that if the frame wasn't put together perfectly straight then it really opens a can of worms on trying to get the tires aligned.
In the rear, as the one post infers, there is only one alignment parameter that can be addressed by the dealership and I believe that is toe. If one needs/wants to address camber than yes, it is an aftermarket product that needs to be installed. $600.00 is OUTRAGEOUS! That is simply theft.
My friend and I did it in a VERY cramped work space with ice dripping on us without all the tools we needed in an afternoon. There is one bolt that Mazda installed that is too long that was a pain in the tush to get out and back in (I would have changed it except we were running out of time).
Doing one side also shows the complete ignorance of the Mazda dealer network. Both might as well be done at the same time. Also I would NOT install "factory" quality bushings of those camber adjusters. The factory quality rubber in Mazda bushings is JUNK. Go with the nylon/neoprene and find a COMPETENT shop to do the work.
As far as front wear. That does get a bit pricer however if they can't get the front end aligned (ask for and GET the print outs and then take them to someone who can read) there are "race" camber adjusters (top shock mounts) made in either Austrailia or New Zealand. When I was looking I wasn't aware of any made in Europe or North America - that may have changed.
I wasn't having tire wear issues and, didn't want any, so I got proactive and started chaning things out before that ball got rolling.
The bottom line gets to: how long are you going to keep the vehicle and what are the tires costing you? What is the cost effective path to follow?
I will say again, with the lower springs, Koni shocks, new bushings and better tires this things is just a hoot to drive. My wife wasn't wild about getting on and off freeways! Until............... she took the car in for the A/C repair and she got a chance to do some on ramp driving and now she is thrilled as well.
Ultimately you will probaly have to leave the very friendly and professional Mazda dealerships for service people who actually know and understand how to REPAIR a car, the dealerships ( I've used 2 now) are clueless.