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115 messages,  Last post on Sep 28, 2009 at 9:02 AM

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Re: Ac blower motor [theelectrician] by imidazol97
Jul 09, 2009 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: theelectrician (Jul 09, 2009 10:06 am)

Fuse #2 30 amp. rear block under rear seat. That may mean the original motor was okay and just swedged by a mouse carcass?
 
Check your connector under the dash for a burned contact or a contact that has unclipped and is recessed too far to make contact.
 
I am assuming your car is wired like an 03 leSabre. I checked the CJ2 diagram for auto temp control.
 
fuse #37 goes to the control, but you said the control is working other parts of the system.
 
On the blower motor connectors B and C are power and ground. A is a feedback to the control unit. You might use a fused jumper to see if you can apply power to the old motor and make it turn and then the new one.
 
Good lluck.
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my car wont crank by shawn101g
Jul 13, 2009 (4:56 pm)
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HI yall i have a 92bonneville and my service engine light has been on when i had bought the car. a week later the car would not do anything when i turn the key. the lights and radio come on but thats it. so i had bought a new battery& a new starter, took it to the shop and they said no power was going to the column so they said i needed a new key or a new column so i bought a new key nothing. then a new column still nothing. i had noticed that my security light dose not come on at all when i turn the key i dont know what to do or what is wrong can any one help
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Re: my car wont crank [shawn101g] by imidazol97
Jul 14, 2009 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: shawn101g (Jul 13, 2009 4:56 pm)

My guess from a distance is that yo've been sold a new key and new column you didn't need.
 
You may have a connection problem in the various battery cables and grounds. Especially grounds.
 
Do you hear a click when you turn the key to ON as the starter tries to work?
 
There also are ground busses under the door sill plastic liner and carpet on the driver's side and passenger side. Pull out the sill at the front and check for corrosion on those grounds. I do not know if one affects the starting circuit, but cars in wet climates or having leaks have developed corrosion there.
 
The chip in the ignition key is read by contacts in the lock cylinder. Two tiny thin wires go down the column, inside a plastic cover that looks like it's a solid wire itself, to the connector at the bottom of the column where the two inner wires split out to different connections. From there the leads go to the computer on those early years of PassKey and the resistance is read by the powertrain computer whether to allow injector pulses and to allow the relay for the starter circuit (high up on the firewall above the passenger's side where it's very hard to reach.
 
The two wire can be cut where they go up to the steering column and connector by a resistor series of the same resistance as the chips in the keys.
 
Then the computer gets the right reading for the car's key all the time. No theft resistance.
 
http://vats.likeabigdog.com/
 
http://www.thirdgen.org/vats_passkey_system
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Re: my car wont crank [imidazol97] by shawn101g
Jul 14, 2009 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 14, 2009 6:49 am)

yeah i kinda figured that i did get sold things that i did not need. but when i turn the key the starter will not even attempt to move. it was jump started by the guy at the shop. but it only ran for maybe 3 seconds and it shut right off he said that something was enabling the fuel. and he replied that he did not no why the security light dose not come on at all when the key is turned to the on position to allow the lights and radio to come on.
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98 boneville no cranking by fcbclan
Jul 18, 2009 (5:22 pm)
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starter ok relay ok no power to small purple on relay
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problem solved by hbj1955
Aug 17, 2009 (4:04 am)
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I has my '95 towed to Affton Auto Electric. They found a bad ground boat. These guys know what they are doing.
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trouble codes by jmose
Aug 23, 2009 (5:41 pm)
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I'm working on a 94 bonne I need a way to check a 5 digit trouble code the code
that came up is not in the Haynes repair manual P0629 any ideas where to get help , pass key frequency invalid also comes up.
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Re: trouble codes [jmose] by imidazol97
Aug 23, 2009 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: jmose (Aug 23, 2009 5:41 pm)

What kind of troubles are you having?
 
for OBDII the P0629 is Fuel Pump A control circuit high voltage...
 
You may have OBD I but I believe 94 and 95 have OBDII codes but OBDI type connections.
 
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/general-discussion/technical-maintenance/361- 333-gm-diagnostic-trouble-codes.html
 
http://westers_garage.eidnet.org/obd2.doc.
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94 bonne by jmose
Aug 23, 2009 (6:20 pm)
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car starts runs 2-3 sec stalls. yes it has obd ll j1962 plug for diagnostic. new fuel pump, filter . I was trying to find code definition for p0629, pass key resistence is 524 looks to be in range
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Re: 94 bonne [jmose] by imidazol97
Aug 24, 2009 (3:32 am)
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Replying to: jmose (Aug 23, 2009 6:20 pm)

Install fuel pressure gauge while you start it. It probably will show fuel pump turning off after start due to P0962 problem=--whatever the problem actually is.
 
How was the P0962 determined? Were proper cables and reader that can do the odd 1.5 OBD setup GM had?
 
Your problem is NOT VATS so the key resistor chip is not in play here.
 
Who installed new fuel pump? Was it doing this before the pump was replaced? There may have been another problem rather than the pump itself. It is important to diagnose before replacing parts.

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