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#176 of 390 Re: 2008 Transmission problems: I'm getting screwed [dkg092008]
Jun 03, 2009 (6:53 am)
I take it you have an automatic if you saw pink fluid at the dealership parking lot. The dude must not have tightened the drain plug for the oil or something. I'd stay away from that dealer after you sort this all out. I got a 2002 jetta. Unfamiliar with the 2008. i got a manual anyways. This does sound wierd. To crack a tranny, you do have to hit something hard. my guess and if you say you didnt do anything abnormal on the way back, i'd say the dealer is lying (what a surprise!) and they are avoiding to admit that they did something wrong. YOu know, i had a stripped drain plug from my oil pan 4 years back and i only brought it to the dealer to get my oil changes. i moved out of the area that i lived in and a new vw dealer noticed it and told me that the whole oil pan needed replacement($300). i got on the phone and i demanded to speak to the owner of the place that did it and sure, i did and i swore it was one of their mechanics and complained on the phone and demanded them to reimburse me for the costs until they finally did. what was funny, was that the vw dealership that noticed it was acctually on my side. They told me only and idiot would overtighten a vw drain plug because they have aluminum oil pans and you can strip the plug right out of them. I am glad that I moved away(from the area that the dealership did that to my car) and took it to a new place. Some of these mechanics out there don't care what they do to other peoples investments as long as they get a check at the end of the week they're satisfied. The dealer will try to deny every bit of it. Stick to your arguement. If you know you didnt do it then theres no way you should repay it. I would look closely to where the crack is and look for other visible damage around the other parts and the frame because if just the tranny is crackedin one place then its hard to hit something like a curb or whatever, I doubt you aimed for anything in the road going home. If it is a crack that is totally isolated from anything else and there is no other damage, i would tell them that their mechanics did soemthing when they were trying to raise your car up to do the oil change under neath it. maybe the joe-shmo mechanic used a lift for the first time in his life. Maybe the mechanic ran something over in the shop. Good luck with your claim. My advise is to explain your dissatisfication/disapointment in volkswagen. You really need to prove your best that you didnt do it and you need to have physical proof. Is the crack all alone from everything else with no damage anywhere else? its kinda hard to run something over in the road that big or hard and not have any other damage whatsoever anywhere else. good luck
also, i am not that familar with the ebrake but i do know that the unit is totally separate from the transmission. i do not know the relation to each and why rpms would increase as a result of lifting up on it. i dont think the ebrak cord would run close to the transmission and if you pulled it, would it crack. yea, i know that doesnt make any sense whatsover, so i dont know what happened in your garage at all. i can definitely say that the drain plug was either loose or stipped and fell out right at the time you pulled in. i dont know how you made it to the dealer ship with little to no oil after that. (what did the car do or sound like on the way back?)and then the tranny decides to let loose all of the fluid at their parking lot is totally beyond what i understand.
The best thing you can do to save your own butt is if you think you'll look stupid checking what they did to your car right in their own parking lot, then drive half a block away and check under the hood/car to see if everything is tightened.(ive done it b4).Some of these people out there can take apart an engine, but they dont have an ounce of common sense, like proper tightening or whatever and then you have a problem on your hands because of someones stupid negligence. tc
#177 of 390 automatic ATF issues
Jun 03, 2009 (4:10 pm)
i have 2003 jetta wagon 1.8t automatic that has 95k on it.
1)i thought it was time to have the ATF changed, which my mechanic is doing right now.
however, he tells me that to change the transmission filter, they have to take the entire transmission out, which will cost me $750. is the filter really that impossible to get to?
2) also, he gave me the option of a basic drain/refill or a power purge. the latter is a lot more expensive, but is it worth it, considering this is the first time i have had my ATF changed and the fluid was pretty nasty and black.
3) turns out this particular tanny fluid is practically impossible to get a hold of and it costs $32/quart. is it true that only 1 particular liquid works for this vehicle?
#178 of 390 Re: automatic ATF issues [engrune]
Jun 03, 2009 (5:24 pm)
changing the atf fluid without changing the filter is a no win situation. that filter has all the crap that was circulating throughout the fluid. putting new fluid in there would just contaminate it without changing the filter. you would change the oil filter when you change the oil , right? I think you could buy your own fluid at a auto parts store that is cheaper than the one at the dealer. ask them to put in the fluid you bought instead. most places should do that. i know firestone does that. buy oil you want put in and they'll do it instead of theirs. just make sure the atf fluid is designed for VW trannies. ask the attendant, they should help you. I dont know about taking the whole tranny out. i think that is a load of crap. i was able to unbolt the old filter on a pickup i owned years back. never had to drop the tranny.cars these days, especially auto transmissions i dont know, just search on the internet. if you find out that instructions on the internet tell you you dont have to, you know that dude is lying to you. go somewhere else. believe it or not, tranny service is not included on regular maintenance intervals which i think is the most ridiculous thing. if they made tranny fluid last forever, then why are we changing our oil every 3 months/3-5K miles. all car manufacturers want to hit your wallet when it comes time to fix the tranny(because we neglect it). i changed the fluid in my manual 3 months ago, it has 73K miles on it. believe me i noticed the better shifting myself. the gears went in a lot smoother. its better to go all out now to change the filter if hes right while your paying for the labor to drop the tranny than to pay repairs later. this is why they call this stuff preventive maintenance.
#179 of 390 Re: automatic ATF issues [razor111]
Jun 03, 2009 (5:54 pm)
thanks for the tip. it makes sense. i guess i was just somewhat reluctant to fork out the money. i will try to figure out whether in fact i need to take the entire tranny out to change the filter.
#180 of 390 Re: automatic ATF issues [engrune]
Jun 04, 2009 (5:59 am)
no problem. I learned this by reading a book called "drive it forever" by bob sikorsky. it has great tips and advice for taking long good care of your car. good luck.
#181 of 390 Re: automatic ATF issues [engrune]
Jun 04, 2009 (7:43 am)
They use an expensive synthetic fluid. I believe VW says it does not need to be changed, unless there are problems occuring with the transmission. I don't know that the color means a whole lot.
#182 of 390 Re: automatic ATF issues [jeffyscott]
Jun 04, 2009 (2:06 pm)
hey whats going on?
did some research for you. i did because i dont want to see vw rip somebody off and i want to pass some advice on. Dont ever go to a dealer for transmission work. i was reading through my vw jetta repair manual which i purchased from pepboys and it doesnt say anything about dropping the tranny to replace the filter. i kinda new that already, but just wanted to make sure. they are yanking your chain. if i were you i'd take back your car if it aint too late, or have them finish it, but tell them you researched and you now have proof that they dont have to drop it. go buy the book at pepboys for $20 and show them, thats bettter than $450 or whatever they told you. i had to pull vw arm to get them to change my manual tranny fluid(at 70,000miles), and i'll never ask them again because theres just something about dealers and refusing to change atf fluid for preventive maintenance. i dont get it, the manual is way more easier, just drain and fill. i dont have the luxury of a lift, otherwise i'd do it myself. maybe next time i'll crawl in wierd positions and do it myslef. Go to firestone or a Tranny place. stay away from volkswagen when it comes to the tranny.
#183 of 390 Re: automatic ATF issues [razor111]
Jun 04, 2009 (2:12 pm)
you should replace the fluid if its any color other than pink or redish-pink. Brown or dark, black fluid should be removed. I'm trying to get my wife to do it on her car(mazda 3), but she'd rather have the warranty take care of it when the tranny blows, but i'm not to confident of the warranty taken care of when that time comes. Her tranny fluid is black. Already seeing signs of it not working properly because it doesnt like to shift down on its own on the up-hills when road conditions call for it. as far as the synthetic goes, thats good stuff, but more expensive. nowadays, synthetic should be used for almost anything with some exceptions.
#184 of 390 Leased 2008 Jetta needs new transmission
Jul 03, 2009 (8:34 am)
Leased a 2008 Jetta in Kingston, NY Feb of 08. Now has 58K miles on it. Automatic transmission. Tranny failed yesterday without warning. Towed to tranny shop. Said it has a Gear 2 incorrect ratio problem and I must pay $4K to replace the transmission.
I cannot imagine this happening to a car that's so new. Any suggestions? Who do I contact for help?
Took to the dealer who claims we hit something but transmission shop says that isn't the case.
I'm beside myself with this news and need advice. Thanks for any info.
#185 of 390 Re: Leased 2008 Jetta needs new transmission [annecohen]
Jul 04, 2009 (12:12 pm)
Your warranty up at 36k?