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Honda CR-V Start Stall and Idle Problems

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#77 of 86 Stalls by donny1300

Apr 17, 2013 (7:37 am)

hey whats up... I never got any code at all even when I had it hooked up and it stall with it hooked up still got nothing.. I was told that part is a common problem...good luck dude!

#78 of 86 Re: Stalls [donny1300] by bambambullies1

Apr 17, 2013 (8:49 am)

Replying to: donny1300 (Apr 17, 2013 7:37 am)
Hey whats up bro, Yeah I never got a code on that either and it is a common problem with these cars ... My brother replaced that distributor housing about 2 years ago and now i guess were gonna have to replace it again ... Thanks for your help bro .. now i know that part is gonna be the problem and i will let you know once i replace it ... Thanks again and it was nice working this out with you ...

#82 of 86 1999 CR-V Wont Start by schneidm

May 19, 2013 (3:35 pm)

Ok....so my 1999 CR-V wont start...well it is running now...but it wouldnt start before. Here's some back ground in case I can hit on a person with same problem.
 
So last Summer, it was totally dying...loss of power....after about 20-30 minutes of summer driving in San Antonio Texas...ambient temp is 95 degrees. So basically, it was dying when HOT. It wasnt gradual. It was a sudden and total loss of power. 15-30 mins later....it would start again. So I went to the dealer and they knew NOTHING until an older experienced mechanic said it was the IGNITION RELAY which resides behind the glove box. So they replaced it for about $110 and the problem stopped. That was about 9-12 months ago.
 
So I have this new relay now....and it has started doing something similar. Summer is upon us again and....while it has not died while I was driving...it did die on me at a traffic light....but it restarted immediately. However, yesterday while in my driveway....it refused to start...did not fire at all....turned over fine...but no fire. I also started to smell gas...so I assume it flooded. 24 hours later...in the morning...it started absolutely fine. This is a car that has been running beautifully for many months now.
 
I have a theory. The day it refused to start, I had driven it fine in the morning...ambient temp was 75 degrees. later that day it refused to start when the ambient temp was 95 degrees. PLUS, I keep this BLACK car parked in the sun with its windows rolled up tight. The ambient temp in the cabin of the car was probably well over 100 degrees.
 
My theory is that this ignition relay, which resides behind the glove box but within the cabin...fails when it is exposed to excessive heat. The heat can come from the surrounding cabin air temp...or it can be generated within the relay itself when the car is running...plus the problem is exacerbated by the Summer ambient air temp. Basically, I am thinking this Honda ignition relay is faulty by design....or some other part of the ignition system is sensitive to ambient air temperatures.
 
So my attempted solution for now is to make sure I keep the windows partly down when the car is parked in the sun in order to keep cabin temps as low as possible.
 
Anyone else have similar problem?

#83 of 86 Re: 1999 CR-V Wont Start [schneidm] by schneidm

May 19, 2013 (3:40 pm)

Replying to: schneidm (May 19, 2013 3:35 pm)
I want to add a little to my story above. Regarding this new relay I had installed....it did die on me once before during the Fall/Winter of 2012/13. I had let the car idle for about 30 minutes in my driveway....and it suddenly just died and would not restart. 12 hours later it started again no problem. My assumption is this ignition relay just got hot again while the car sat an idled for 30 minutes.

#84 of 86 Re: 1999 CR-V Wont Start [schneidm] by propwash49

May 21, 2013 (6:40 pm)

Replying to: schneidm (May 19, 2013 3:35 pm)
You might want to check out your fuel pump relay. I've had two friends who had Accords, and they would stall out in the summer time when it got hot outside. Both problems were fixed immediately when they changed their fuel pump relays.
 
The next time it won't start, turn it off and wait a few minutes. Then turn the ignition on, but DO NOT try to start the engine. Just turn the key so that the idiot lights illuminate. You should hear a momentary (2-3 second) buzzing sound coming from the rear of the car, in the area of the gas tank. This is the fuel pump running momentarily to pressurize the system. If you don't hear this (it may be necessary to open the tailgate and put your head near the floor, as close to the fuel tank as possible and let a friend turn the key so you can hear it better), you may need a new fuel pump relay. Good luck.

#85 of 86 Re: 1999 CR-V Wont Start [propwash49] by schneidm

May 21, 2013 (7:27 pm)

Replying to: propwash49 (May 21, 2013 6:40 pm)
Thanks for that. Today the car went into total failure for first time. Would not start all day. It did occur to me that this could be a fuel pump problem. I'll do your test and then decide what's next.

#86 of 86 Re: 1999 CR-V Wont Start [schneidm] by schneidm

May 22, 2013 (10:22 am)

Replying to: schneidm (May 21, 2013 7:27 pm)
More good info: Apparently the "ignition relay" I referenced above is realted to the fuel pump as well...so the same relaycould both inhibit a spark and stop fuel flow. see below...
 
http://hondaprelude.danielcadams.com/how-to-replace-the-main-relay-in-a-honda-cr- -v/
 
The Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI) main relay in Honda CR-Vs manufactured between1997 and 2000 is located on the passenger's side behind the dashboard and glove box. This relay actually contains two relays within it--one that controls the power to the fuel injectors and a second relay that powers the fuel pump.

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