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Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Suzuki SX4 Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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| I paid US$15,594.00 for a silver 5-speed base model. The dealer only had one 5-speed and about 10 automatics. The salesman said they would give me an automatic for less but not the 5-speed because everyone is asking for the 5-speed. He said I could wait and see how they SX4 sells and if it isn't then they would start discounting them but I couldn't wait! That was two months ago. | |
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Shopping for cars just makes me cranky -- I don't know why you all sound so cheerful. I didn't know what an SX4 was until I "stalked" one the other day to read its fender. I don't understand why anyone thinks its "ugly" -- its the nicest design I've seen in a car in a long time. (I'm one of those middle-age-ish off-market people). And much cuter than the photos someone posted of the impending sedan. (To me, the SX4 -- the current model available in the US - is clearly a "chick" car.) Hasn't anyone ever heard of negotiating for a car price? I intend to basically pay cash for a car (it will be financed by my bank) --whatever I decide on -- and go in with a good, paid-off trade-in (2004 Nissan). I looked at an 07 SX4 and an 03 Honda CRV. The dealer gave me that "we buy the SX4s just barely over wholesale" line -- as if car prices are set in stone. Since when? Why are you all paying the asking price for these cars? It's because of this that car prices are so ridiculously high. We have all basically AGREED to it. Can't someone tell me that they bought an SX4 for less than what the dealer says it cost?? I know dealers probably haunt these forums, so I'm skeptical I'll get a straight answer here. As far Hondas, Toyotas, and Subarus "holding their value" better than an SX4 or whatever -- that's bunk. They hold their value when you want to BUY one, but not when you go to sell one or trade one in. (Has anyone tried to privately sell a good used car lately? It's gotten to the point that it's almost considered weird to do this. Dealers know this.) Anyway you approach a car purchase you're going to lose money on it. So the only "power" consumers have is to demand lower-than-sticker or MSRP prices. They'll make a profit on my trade-in (to someone who doesn't know what an ASKING price means) and then even on what they make from however much I can talk them down (which wouldn't be enough, for such a basic little car). I was also surprised that there are no incentives for buying a new SX4 -- finance rates are higher than my bank's, and the dealer said something about $500 rebate or off sticker. Which is probably still way over wholesale. How do we know what the real wholesale price is? KBB surely isn't impartial -- just look at the ads on its Web site! The scarcity of Suzuki dealers in my area (there's one within a reasonable driving distance) scares me; if I bought one, it would be in large part for the warranty. How do I know it will still be around in five years, when things are falling apart? On the other hand, the 03 Honda CRV has a 12-mo warranty -- and I know the transmission will fall out on day 366. That pretty much happened with my used Subaru! I should probably just keep the Nissan. But it's not 4WD, and I need that where I live. And I want to cash in on it now, before the mileage (almost 50K) gets much higher. Thanks for listening; any input would be much appreciated; I promise I won't attack. Kim
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Replying to: kvandyke (Dec 15, 2006 8:19 pm) as far as not paying list. and why there is no deals. 2 words. (New Model). I never seen deals on new models. same with the honda fit. their attitude is if you dont buy it someone else will.. My Local suzuki dealership cant keep them in stock, and thats at the list price according to the sales person. So you can talk price all you want but if they arent going to move on the price then they will just sell it to someone else. at least that is how its down here with the new SX4. btw i dont have one. and from the reviews ive read its making me seriously think twice. where i live awd is not needed, so fuel economy might take front seat on this one. gas price wont be going down over the 5 years i have to pay on a new car. i Dont want $4 a gallon at 21mpg! |
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Replying to: arkainzeye (Dec 16, 2006 4:14 am) I still have a hard time believing that a dealer buys a car for what they intend to sell it for. That just sounds like me being naive. I inherited the Nissan (well, I inherited the Nissan and its loan) recently. I have studded snow tires on it right now. Although so far, no snow. (I live in a remote-ish hilltown in New England, roughly). And I should have said I'm selling it and paying it off (to a local service station that sells a lot of used cars) -- then (maybe) going into the dealer and paying cash. It just so happened that my Subaru became more of a liability at around the same time, so I wanted to "combine" them -- then I happened to see an SX4 tooling down my hill. A Buick dealer w/a used lot I visited told me something interesting today. (He recommended a used Hyundai Tucson). He said anyone who considers buying a used car should ask to see the title then call the previous owner. Makes sense but it probably wouldn't have occurred to me. It's apparently a state law, at least here, that they have to show you the title if you ask.
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Replying to: arkainzeye (Dec 16, 2006 4:14 am)
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Replying to: kvandyke (Dec 16, 2006 1:44 pm)
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Replying to: arkainzeye (Dec 17, 2006 6:15 am) |
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Replying to: kvandyke (Dec 15, 2006 8:19 pm) Suzukis depreciate horribly. Hondas and Toyotas do not. Selling private party is easy. I've sold a ton of cars on my own. You end up losing thousands trading it in.
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Replying to: erics6 (Dec 17, 2006 10:01 am)
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Replying to: arkainzeye (Dec 17, 2006 2:07 pm) |
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