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#60 of 79 "new" Saturn Astra? [jpmccormac]
by creakid1
Feb 10, 2007 (11:42 am)
This "new" Saturn coming out is gonna be just an outmoded Opel/Vauxhall Astra:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/205104/this_weeks_auto_express- - - - - .html
Like the low-tech B-class cars, the GM Astra comes w/ trailing-arm rear suspension, which was pioneered by FWD VW's over 3 decades ago. But unlike VW's, GM could not duplicate the expensive building method found w/in the VW trailing arms &, therefore, failed to match VW's ride/handling compromise.
A few years back, VW hired the "C-170 Focus" engineers to design the Control Blade rear suspension for today's FWD Golf/Jetta/Passat/A3/Scirocco for improving the ride/handling compromise.
So Opel tried to copy VW's old design, which VW got rid off & replaced it w/ C-170 Focus' system!
Even if Saturn is going to build this "old" European Astra, will it come w/ Europeans' fancy optional panoramic windshield?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/203124/vauxhall_astra.html
#63 of 79 Re: Focus III [creakid1]
by scape2
May 17, 2007 (7:07 pm)
I am a Ford fan. I just cannot understand why Ford cannot sell cars like this in the U.S???? If this is a Focus it looks great!! and Ford needs this NOW! not 6 years from now!
The 2008 Focus looks like a step in the right direction. Styling is nice. However, once again Ford drops the 2.3!! Why?? It should make the 2.3 standard, offer a 6spd automatic and a 6spd manual! I'm frustrated...
#64 of 79 Re: Focus III [scape2]
by creakid1
May 17, 2007 (7:26 pm)
"The 2008 Focus looks like a step in the right direction."???
So it's people like you who gave American Ford the confidence to go ahead.
I really though that the '08 sacrifices styling just to appeal to the anti-import crowd!!!
Anyway, Mazda kept the "know how" to themselves & failed to tune the Focus engines to save fuel. That's why the 2.3, which wastes energy on the balance-shafts alone, had to go.
#65 of 79 Euro Focus
by mcmanus
Jun 22, 2007 (5:22 am)
Is it any wonder why GM and Ford are going down?
They're so big, they can't see outside their own corporate walls. While the ship is sinking internal fighting between grossly overpaid upper management personalities is still top on their agenda. Rather than accept the fact that improved fuel economy is smart like the rest of the world, they'd rather complain that they can't find a market for anything but gas hogs. They've had years to redesign cars while living off pickup and SUV profits, now they're in a position to get hurt very badly again.
I'm from Michigan and would like nothing better than lean, intelligent GM and Ford companies that can compete on the world stage. But the worst cars I've owned in 30 years have been the only two domestics I bought, a 1985 Cavilier and a 2001 Mazda 626. Worse than the poor designs has been the lazy, stupid, hillbilly service.
It amazes me that they won't even test market the Euro Focus here in the U.S. Maybe there is more profit in gas guzzlers and the Euro Focus would make the rest of their fleet look really bad. Probably couldn't get the mechanics to work on them or stock parts either.
It's gonna be results, not excuses, that keeps GM and Ford in business. I've tried to buy American, but no more.
#69 of 79 Why do we get the left overs????
by dj2big
Jul 04, 2007 (5:37 pm)
FORD FOCUS 2008 IS A 2007 IN MEXICO!!!
www.ford.com.mx