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#56 of 79 Re: 2010 for Focus 2009 for B-Class Ford [basiliskst]
Feb 06, 2007 (5:29 pm)
Accepting that the 2008 model is a stop-gap measure, I see the dumbing down of the Focus line as a very foolish move. Dropping the popular (at least here in California) ZX3/5 seems like giving up, no matter how much Ford uses hip, "I'm a Mac" actors in its ads. At least they say that they've improved the interior (we'll see), given that complaints about the seats were so widespread and that they did nothing about it for several years (rather like GM's neglect of Cavalier and Saturn).
#58 of 79 2008 Ford Focus in U.S.? Save it!...Check out the Focus ST in Europe
Feb 06, 2007 (8:28 pm)
When can we see something like this in U.S.? Frankly, those punks in Ford thought we are a bunch of dumb $$es out here.
Check out the one of test drive by Top Gear, Ford U.S.!
#59 of 79 Got my g/f excited
Feb 06, 2007 (9:40 pm)
When I first saw this thing I thought uggggghhh a saturn Ion. My g/f though chimmed up "I think its CUTE". After looking at it for a while I think its growing on me.
So what about the platform it could come in at a nice pricing point. I want low price, reliability, and good fuel economy. Even if they used the modern platform and it gave better performance most Americans wouldn't care. With 90% of cars going out as auto its clear people aren't concerned with that.
As long as they drop the base price (the MSRP on the current focus is laughable) and bring in a B car ASAP they could have products people wanna buy.
Ford if you can't bring a B-car by the time this new thing comes out, then your screwed. The longer you make unsellable products the fewer people think of you.
#60 of 79 "new" Saturn Astra? [jpmccormac]
Feb 10, 2007 (10:42 am)
This "new" Saturn coming out is gonna be just an outmoded Opel/Vauxhall Astra:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/205104/this_weeks_auto_express- - - - - .html
Like the low-tech B-class cars, the GM Astra comes w/ trailing-arm rear suspension, which was pioneered by FWD VW's over 3 decades ago. But unlike VW's, GM could not duplicate the expensive building method found w/in the VW trailing arms &, therefore, failed to match VW's ride/handling compromise.
A few years back, VW hired the "C-170 Focus" engineers to design the Control Blade rear suspension for today's FWD Golf/Jetta/Passat/A3/Scirocco for improving the ride/handling compromise.
So Opel tried to copy VW's old design, which VW got rid off & replaced it w/ C-170 Focus' system!
Even if Saturn is going to build this "old" European Astra, will it come w/ Europeans' fancy optional panoramic windshield?
#63 of 79 Re: Focus III [creakid1]
May 17, 2007 (6:07 pm)
I am a Ford fan. I just cannot understand why Ford cannot sell cars like this in the U.S???? If this is a Focus it looks great!! and Ford needs this NOW! not 6 years from now!
The 2008 Focus looks like a step in the right direction. Styling is nice. However, once again Ford drops the 2.3!! Why?? It should make the 2.3 standard, offer a 6spd automatic and a 6spd manual! I'm frustrated...
#64 of 79 Re: Focus III [scape2]
May 17, 2007 (6:26 pm)
"The 2008 Focus looks like a step in the right direction."???
So it's people like you who gave American Ford the confidence to go ahead.
I really though that the '08 sacrifices styling just to appeal to the anti-import crowd!!!
Anyway, Mazda kept the "know how" to themselves & failed to tune the Focus engines to save fuel. That's why the 2.3, which wastes energy on the balance-shafts alone, had to go.
#65 of 79 Euro Focus
Jun 22, 2007 (4:22 am)
Is it any wonder why GM and Ford are going down?
They're so big, they can't see outside their own corporate walls. While the ship is sinking internal fighting between grossly overpaid upper management personalities is still top on their agenda. Rather than accept the fact that improved fuel economy is smart like the rest of the world, they'd rather complain that they can't find a market for anything but gas hogs. They've had years to redesign cars while living off pickup and SUV profits, now they're in a position to get hurt very badly again.
I'm from Michigan and would like nothing better than lean, intelligent GM and Ford companies that can compete on the world stage. But the worst cars I've owned in 30 years have been the only two domestics I bought, a 1985 Cavilier and a 2001 Mazda 626. Worse than the poor designs has been the lazy, stupid, hillbilly service.
It amazes me that they won't even test market the Euro Focus here in the U.S. Maybe there is more profit in gas guzzlers and the Euro Focus would make the rest of their fleet look really bad. Probably couldn't get the mechanics to work on them or stock parts either.
It's gonna be results, not excuses, that keeps GM and Ford in business. I've tried to buy American, but no more.