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#51 of 79 Re: 2010 for Focus 2009 for B-Class Ford [basiliskst]
Jan 23, 2007 (7:53 pm)
Why bother w/ B-Class? 'cause in crowded cities, you need small cars even if $ is no object. & newer C-Class cars are growing fatter.
The B-Class will not have the high-tech multilink rear suspension for good ride/handling compromise. That includes the VW Polo, Ford Fiesta, Honda Fit, etc. Eventhough the Mini Cooper & BMW 1-series do have rear multilink, the set up is too firm for comfort.
The new C-1 Focus, like the new Lexus IS "compact" sport sedan, has an extremely wide body, therefore not for me. So the current C-170 Focus is the best "B-Class". Grab'em while you can!
I even collected a 2000 Civic hatch, which has an all-around Double Wishbone suspension system packaged w/in a smallish exterior. Since the turn of the century, the smallest Honda w/ such high-tech suspension is a heavy-weight TSX!
#52 of 79 2008 Focus Availability??
Feb 04, 2007 (7:44 am)
When do they hit the lots?? Spring or end of 2007???
#53 of 79 Re: 2008 Focus Availability?? [damianinpa]
Feb 04, 2007 (11:07 am)
I asked that very same question to a Ford cutomer rep. She mentioned the 2008 Focus hitting showrooms at the very end of summer, towards late September...probably early October.
#54 of 79 Re: 2008 Focus Availability?? [aladdinsane]
Feb 05, 2007 (7:42 pm)
"...2008 Focus hitting showrooms at the very end of summer, towards late September...probably early October."
Well, I thought the Focus looked sort of interesting until I saw the preview of the new Saturn Astra, which will debut at the Chicago Auto show this week. The Astra (from Opel) makes the Focus look like a Yugo in comparison - at least from what I've seen and read so far. And it will come in three and five door hatch models. Keep your C1 Focus, Mr. Ford. If you're not familiar with the Opel Astra, you should be. Google is your friend.
#55 of 79 Re: 2008 Focus Availability?? [jpmccormac]
Feb 05, 2007 (8:59 pm)
I absoulutely agree with you, jpmccormac!
They're both nice, but I'd go with the Astra coupe (speaking for myself).
Ford = one blunder after another, IMHO.
#56 of 79 Re: 2010 for Focus 2009 for B-Class Ford [basiliskst]
Feb 06, 2007 (6:29 pm)
Accepting that the 2008 model is a stop-gap measure, I see the dumbing down of the Focus line as a very foolish move. Dropping the popular (at least here in California) ZX3/5 seems like giving up, no matter how much Ford uses hip, "I'm a Mac" actors in its ads. At least they say that they've improved the interior (we'll see), given that complaints about the seats were so widespread and that they did nothing about it for several years (rather like GM's neglect of Cavalier and Saturn).
#58 of 79 2008 Ford Focus in U.S.? Save it!...Check out the Focus ST in Europe
Feb 06, 2007 (9:28 pm)
When can we see something like this in U.S.? Frankly, those punks in Ford thought we are a bunch of dumb $$es out here.
Check out the one of test drive by Top Gear, Ford U.S.!
#59 of 79 Got my g/f excited
Feb 06, 2007 (10:40 pm)
When I first saw this thing I thought uggggghhh a saturn Ion. My g/f though chimmed up "I think its CUTE". After looking at it for a while I think its growing on me.
So what about the platform it could come in at a nice pricing point. I want low price, reliability, and good fuel economy. Even if they used the modern platform and it gave better performance most Americans wouldn't care. With 90% of cars going out as auto its clear people aren't concerned with that.
As long as they drop the base price (the MSRP on the current focus is laughable) and bring in a B car ASAP they could have products people wanna buy.
Ford if you can't bring a B-car by the time this new thing comes out, then your screwed. The longer you make unsellable products the fewer people think of you.
#60 of 79 "new" Saturn Astra? [jpmccormac]
Feb 10, 2007 (11:42 am)
This "new" Saturn coming out is gonna be just an outmoded Opel/Vauxhall Astra:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/205104/this_weeks_auto_express- - - - - .html
Like the low-tech B-class cars, the GM Astra comes w/ trailing-arm rear suspension, which was pioneered by FWD VW's over 3 decades ago. But unlike VW's, GM could not duplicate the expensive building method found w/in the VW trailing arms &, therefore, failed to match VW's ride/handling compromise.
A few years back, VW hired the "C-170 Focus" engineers to design the Control Blade rear suspension for today's FWD Golf/Jetta/Passat/A3/Scirocco for improving the ride/handling compromise.
So Opel tried to copy VW's old design, which VW got rid off & replaced it w/ C-170 Focus' system!
Even if Saturn is going to build this "old" European Astra, will it come w/ Europeans' fancy optional panoramic windshield?