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| What the #$%&? According to http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/FVDP/Preview/styleId=100728682, the 2008 Focus for US will be yet another stup!d facelift! What Ford really needs if it wants to boost sales is bring here instead the cool (up-to-date) Europe-market Focus. Sure, it's larger than our current Focus, but the competition Chevy Cobalt is also larger, isn't it? So even a larger Focus (like the Euro Focus) can still battle the Cobalt and the also-now-larger Civic, Corolla, and 2007 Sentra. If Ford really needs an econo-car to battle the Aveo, Fit, Versa, etc., then the Fiesta or a similar Brazil-built product is more logical than an ageing Focus facelift. | |
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Replying to: jedi787plus (Sep 25, 2006 6:19 am) link title ~marc |
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Replying to: jedi787plus (Sep 25, 2006 6:19 am) 
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Replying to: v_d (Oct 14, 2006 6:50 pm) |
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Replying to: jedi787plus (Sep 25, 2006 6:19 am)
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Replying to: dan5678 (Nov 10, 2006 5:25 pm) |
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Replying to: jedi787plus (Sep 25, 2006 6:19 am) Bring the new Euro Forus to America. Don't tell us it's too big. Don't tell us it's too 'upscale'. Give us a car we are ASKING to buy.
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It's bulky fat at 184cm (over 6 ft), not even the Lexus LS430 can match. Stick w/ the old platform & continue w/ the old-fashion hydraulic steering for better feel. The C-170 is a collecter's item. Have you driven a Focus SVT lately. Hello, it's been out for a while. Only the 1.6 (not available here) version of the new C-1 (MkII) Focus & Mazda3 got the conventional hydraulic steering, but still not as feel-ful as the C-170 Focus SVT's meaty steering. As a current Mazda Protege owner, I hate to see how the new electro-hydraulic power steering ruined the fun in the C-1: http://www.evo.co.uk/u/r0a9f0811324f75a7t/carreviews/evocarreviews/204243/mazda_- - - - 3_mps.html "Stability at very high speed is exemplary, too. As it is on fast country roads. The chassis has bags of grip, fine body control and, amazingly, hardly any torque-steer. Trouble is, travelling quickly in the 3 MPS just isn’t much fun. At least, not by the standards of a Golf GTI or (MkII)Focus ST. And especially not by the standards of the latest Renaultsport Mégane competing in this year’s eCoty. The steering, while reasonably direct and well weighted, feels numb and is very short on detail feedback, the engine note is persistently dull and occasionally unpleasant, and although grip and body control are good, the chassis’ act as a whole is distinctly two dimensional, the mild understeering balance being only minutely adjustable with the throttle. Ride comfort is rather fidgety, too."
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Replying to: creakid1 (Dec 23, 2006 12:43 pm) Check this out... with Mitsubishi's EVO, and Subaru's WRX, it would be ashame if we, in the home of FORD, did not get this: http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evospyshots/204479/ford_focus_rs.html Also note that the current gen Focus could not accomodate all-wheel drive (therefore the front-wheel drive Focus RS).
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Replying to: lmgt1 (Dec 23, 2006 5:47 pm) In the late '90's, British car magazines dared to complain about how the E46 3-series, w/ or w/o sport package, lost the involving steering feel after the E36. So I waited for the new E90 3-series sedan, but still found its steering feel no match for the old E36. It was especially unsatisfying light at low speed. Having more feel than most other cars today, such as the Lexus IS, is still not good enough. & watch out for the E90 coupe, which lost the sedan's hydraulic unit all together. As if only Porsche's still got lots of steering feel today. The new redesigned Mini Cooper &, especially, the new MX-5 Miata also got complains from the British magazines when switching to pure electric steering. So I ended up getting a mint-condition '99 E36 328is just recently. Boy, the steering was just a tad too heavy, so I had to use a thick steering-wheel cover to lighten the effort.  Now, I just want to figure out how to duplicate the C-170 Focus SVT's meaty steering effort on my '05 Focus ST. Possibly by cutting down the electric current to the power steering pump. Nevertheless, it is quite foolish to get an AWD car from a FWD platform. 'cause the FWD platforms come w/ heavy front-overhang weight for FWD traction! If you want an AWD car, then start out from a RWD platform. Go test drive a base 16"-wheel RX-8 auto w/ non-sport suspension, then you'll scratch your head wondering why this light-nose car handles like a race car & still rides almost limo soft! Anyway, here's a British complain over the new C-1 Focus' steering: creakid1, "Ford Focus 2005 release date" #67, 25 Dec 2004 11:39 am |
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