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Article comments for First Drive: 2007 Chrysler Sebring - Still front-wheel drive, the 2007 Chrysler Sebring rides on a stretched and widened version of the Dodge Caliber platform, which is also the basis for the next Sebring convertible. (more)


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Re: Article Comments: 2007 Chrysler Sebring First Drive [KarenS] by ranger81
Oct 04, 2006 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: KarenS (Sep 22, 2006 7:34 am)

I haven't driven any of the recent Accords, Camrys or Altimas. So, I'm speaking strictly from what I've read.
 
However, in addition to the comments in the first drive, I note that a Camry can list for over $30,000. Meanwhile, a loaded '07 Sebring lists for $26,000. I would think that in this price segment $4,000 represents a lot of money. Additionally, visiting Toyota/Honda/Nissan dealership for "maintenance" tends to be expensive. Priced an oil change at one of the dealership recently?
 
My point is that comparing a Camry/Accord/Altima to a Fusion/Milan or Sebring isn't an apple to apple comparison.
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2 liter diesel - you forgot by punter1
Oct 11, 2006 (10:15 am)
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you forgot the 2 liter cdi diesel - much better mpg and power
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Re: Article Comments: 2007 Chrysler Sebring First Drive [KarenS] by flash11
Nov 04, 2006 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: KarenS (Sep 22, 2006 7:34 am)

We would like to buy a new 2007 Sebring Limited 3.5L engine fully loaded, looks nice inside and out, and probably has good power. But bad news, the dealer said Chryslers has put buying the 2007 Sebring Limited 3.5L on hold-no explanation as of NOV.02/2006. Does anyone on this forum know why??
I think the Sebring will be a good replacement car for my wife's '99 Mazda Protege LX 1.8L. We have second thoughts about buying Japanese again. See below.
Reason: My wife's '99 Mazda Protege LX 1.8L hit a pothole and bent the rim slightly (some vibration at higher speeds). When we brought it in to the Mazda Dealer he quoted us for parts totaling $600 not including labor(strut,sway bar,rim, tire). I replaced just the rim,used, $65.00 tire included, problem fixed but lesson learned. My wife freaked. Parts are as expensive as a BMW but it is just a Mazda, and this Mazda is past its 6 year extended warantee.
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Re: Article Comments: 2007 Chrysler Sebring First Drive [flash11] by jpf
Nov 04, 2006 (4:23 pm)
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Replying to: flash11 (Nov 04, 2006 6:06 am)

My guess is that Chrysler does not have enough of these engines available at this time because it is used in so many of their other vehicles (Charger, 300, etc.). You can get the Sebring with the 2.4 liter 4 or 2.7 liter V6. I would stay away from the 2.7 V6 because of its problematic past history.
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Re: Article Comments: 2007 Chrysler Sebring First Drive [jpf] by flash11
Nov 05, 2006 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: jpf (Nov 04, 2006 4:23 pm)

I am also wondering if the 3.5L V6 has the Flex Fuel capability in order to use E85 ethanol alternative fuel. Someone mentioned earlier that they may have a 2.0 cdi diesel engine option ?? On that note, I really like the diesel option, I have ridden in a Jeep Liberty with the diesel, gets great gas mileage and power, imagine 25mpg city, 32mpg highway with a midsize 4x4 and diesel fuel is cheaper in general than regular unleaded, but you would have to import it from Canada if you could get it through customs. I know someone who owns one that posted the gas mileage on his spare tire cover as advertisement, lots of people don't want to believe it, but it is true. Daimler Chrysler should be using this ace-in-the-hole technology to their advantage and blow away the competition-there must be a reason I am not aware of ie.int'l politics etc.
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Another Chrysler DOG!!!!!!!! by 07xle
Nov 08, 2006 (6:52 pm)
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link title
 
Might have been ok 5-6 years ago.....
 
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Re: Another Chrysler DOG!!!!!!!! [07xle] by kc177
Nov 09, 2006 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: 07xle (Nov 08, 2006 6:52 pm)

I really think this bias against Chrysler needs to stop. First of all that article actually doesn't really give any technical facts to back up anything it is reporting on. The front seating area of the Sebring is actually larger than the out-going model and on par with both the Camry and the Accord beating them both in front head room and within tenths of an inch everywhere else except the trunk.
 
In terms of styling it really is objectionable, but to call it bland you really can't and while the Ford Fusion is something i really like, the overall wedge shape has been done before (picture a 96' Accord with a more aggressive grill). What I am really looking forward to is the Dodge Avenger variant since the handling will surely become more aggressive and tighten up and the overall design becomes more aggressive.
 
And since they touched on the interior it really sucks that they didn't talk about a single feature that the Sebring has that the others don't. Really the article really wasn't good journalism but just an attempt the bash Chrysler on a design theme you are sure to see duplicated by everyone else in a year or two.
 
It's just amazing that everyone is doing in your face grills and front ends on their vehicles, hmmm I wonder who started that??!?
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Another Consistent Observation by 07xle
Nov 13, 2006 (1:39 pm)
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I took a test drive of the base model, with automatic by harrychezt
Nov 13, 2006 (8:55 pm)
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and it was close to 20K msrp Ummm, to get the sunroof(and maybe 8 way seat... I did not feel it needed a way seats, vs the way adjustable... but I only drove it 15 minutes, tops, so who knows what it'd be like on 1-2 hour trips) added nearly 1K to the price, and close to 21K ( of course, -500 off msrp, they said) still be about 20K, and I would Get Less than what the Kia Optima( GEMA engine also, I believe, except there is is perhaps form the GEMA factory in S Korea...GEMA has 5 worldwide, 2 in Michigan, 1 in S Korea, 1or 2 in Japan, can't recall)...and the Kia could be had for about 1,500 Less, easily(and a better interior).
 
Anyhow:
 Pros:
 Styling:
 This is sharp. On the net, it looked bad.
Ride: compared 2 the Fusion and Sonata, it's great, and better than Malibu,too. About = to Optima(new one, 2006.5-2007 models, Not the old one).
 Steering wheel(placement) to seat: Perfect. Almost as good(as the best I liked) as the 99 Maxima I tested.
Seat comfort: for a base Chrysler, above avg. Very good!!!!!
Comfortable, indeed.
 
In the Middle:
 Interior: kind of cheap looking(like the review said).
But, I did like the general idea.
0-60... it seems no faster than the I-4(GEMA) engine in the Optima( it has 161HP vs 173 in the Sebring).
maybe the 5 speed automatic vs 4 speed in the Sebring is why they both felt on par of "fastness"). The Sebring seemed to struggle more, too( can you tell, I am , in th e future, perhaps considering a Sebring or Optima).
The 5 speed(on Optima, sorry for the "dual"
 comparison review here...on normal speeds, take offs, felt smoother and quieter. Both were noisy and somewhat sluggish on flooring it to get moving up to speed).
The Fusion also has a 5 speed, But No Auto-manual shift(they do come in handy at times, especially on these 4 cylinders, if ya need extra "oomph" to pass in traffic, downshift one gear, and off ya go... Optima 5 speed wins this, over even auto-manual Sonata, I-4, 4 speed auto-manual).
Cons:
 MSRP: Fusion, Optima, Sonata, Malibu, even G6 sedan, all can be had for less.
 
I would (perhaps.... ) take this car over a Malibu( well, not problems there ... definitely a yes over this car) and Fusion and Sonata(most likely take Sebring over one of these)... but the Optima....it even has a better deal than the Sonata( their I-4 has a 4 speed auto,same for Sebring, too, but Optima has 5 speed, which makes it smoother, IMO, and better MPG).
If there were some kind of 2K cash back, and a 1 K (after bargaining) off, and I could get the base model, sunroof, and auto, for say 18K, Yes.
When you talk 19-21K... there are better options out there(and considering that Chrysler seems to have a "worse" warranty than even GM these days....).
Rumors are of a PT Cruiser on the new Sebring platform(and GEMA engines?)... Maybe I'll wait to see if this is true.
 
Overall, the review was fairly on target.
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Oy. by wale_bate1
Nov 15, 2006 (5:41 pm)
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In '95, when the Cloud cars were introduced, they marked a real step forward in domestic midsize design, so much so that I picked up a Stratus ES V6 and kept it for six enjoyable years, the longest I have ever held onto a car.
 
It was a solid bit of design work from top to bottom, and really excelled in the styling department, especially when framed by other offerings of the time. While interior materials may have been slightly below some other entries, the package overall came off rather well, and though the straight-line performance was nothing to send telegrams about, the handling, for a FWD car, was truly remarkable, again, especially when framed by the competition.
 
The true market price was a bargain as well.
 
Unfortunately, from that first model year to this new intro, the Chrysler midize platform has never been given the attention it deserved or needed, whether upgrade or total revamp.
 
This latest is a lost-in-the-crowd also-ran in a huge sea of mostly mundane options. Not a single stand-out aspect on which to hang a hat.
 
As a former Mopar owner, and longtime fan, I have been soundly disappointed by what they have done with the sedan in this segment. Even GM fields a more appealing candidate, mediocre though I think it is. And for me to indicate any preference for the General is a telling sign indeed.
 
Very disappointing.

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