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Re: Pilot Vibration [justaveragejoe]
by ksayers
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Dec 14, 2006 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: justaveragejoe (Dec 14, 2006 8:08 am)
It's not wind noise. If you drive on very smooth asphalt
the noise is minimal. If you drive on anything OTHER than
very smooth asphalt (rough asphalt, concrete of any sort,
etc.) it is very noisy. Same speed. Same air. Honda
has a serious issue with road isolation, specifically,
picking up the noise through the suspension to the passenger
interior. And... doesn't matter whether it is the original
Integrity tires or new Michelin's.
Most people don't take a test drive for any extended time
on a freeway. If they did, Honda sales would suffer.
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Re: Pilot Vibration [pratzert]
by doctor_dirt
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Dec 14, 2006 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: pratzert (Dec 13, 2006 2:57 pm)
It's strange I have read these forums for a while and have always been concerned with this topic but have been lucky not to experience the problem at all. I now have a little over 5,000 miles on my 06 AWD/EXL and haven't experienced any problem with vibration other than a small vibration at 42 MPH. As far as higher speeds, our speed limit on the highways here in Arizona is 75 and I frequently drive at 80-85. Road noise has also been an issue in the forum and I find my Pilot very quiet and can easily listen to the stereo at speed. As far as road noise and wind the Pilot is much quieter than the Subaru WRX/STI that I traded in against it. I wonder if the noise and vibration started immediately and if it didn't show up in your initial test drive of the vehicle.
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- #29 of 86
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Re: Pilot Vibration [ksayers]
by justaveragejoe
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Dec 14, 2006 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: ksayers (Dec 14, 2006 8:32 am)
As a matter of fact, I drive from old asphalt to brand new asphalt everyday (65 mph speed limit) and I am aware of that difference, which is significant. Since I also drive a Buick sedan over the same route, I have compared the differences between those vehicles. The Honda does produce more noise on both surfaces. But it's better than the Chevy Blazer that it replaced. I test drove the Highlander also but didn't sense a significant improvement vs. the Honda.
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- #30 of 86
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Re: Pilot Vibration [ksayers]
by kabill
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Dec 15, 2006 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: ksayers (Dec 14, 2006 8:32 am)
I know this thread is supposed to be about vibrations in the PILOTs, but since you mentioned wind noise, I have to say that I've not driven a PILOT (10-15 of them) that didn't have excessive wind noise. It's a problem that's been thoroughly discussed throughout these forums, as well as readily admitted to by my local Honda dealer.
As far as the vibration, I've experienced it on a few Pilots, and road noise is a given on most Hondas.
I'm hoping these issues get addressed for the 2008 model, but I'm not very optimistic considering they haven't been yet.
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- #31 of 86
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Re: Pilot Vibration [kabill]
by jph123
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Jan 05, 2007 (9:50 pm)
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Replying to: kabill (Dec 15, 2006 7:24 pm)
I have a 2004 Pilot with 59000+ miles. Replaced tires with Michelin® Cross Terrain recently. The vibration is finally gone.
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- #32 of 86
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Re: Pilot Vibration [pratzert]
by kabate
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Jan 11, 2007 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: pratzert (Dec 13, 2006 2:57 pm)
This sounds EXACTLY like my Pilot. I purchased my Pilot in Sept. 06 and the vibration appeared the day after I picked it up. It has been back to different dealers 4 times. After five sets of tires and rims, five rotations, 4 wheel alignments, a "special road balance" and 2 disconnections of the drive train, the problem still exists. Honda does acknowledge that there is a problem with the car - the regional service rep has driven it and agrees - but they have no idea what the problem is or how to fix it. They also can't confirm or deny that the problem makes the vehicle unsafe. Comforting thought when you have a 3 year old in the car everyday. I want my '03 Pilot back.
Also, any thoughts on what to tell the dealer to fix the window noise - rattling kind of "styrofoam" noise. Repair attempts on this is four times as well.
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Re: Pilot Vibration [kabate]
by ksayers
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Jan 11, 2007 (10:45 pm)
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Replying to: kabate (Jan 11, 2007 6:20 pm)
As you have gone through plenty with the dealer, I would suggest requesting a meeting with the regional manager and go in with the assumption that the defect IS a safety hazard and if Honda wants to PROVE otherwise, do so. There is no reason to buy into the concept that they define whether its a hazard or not. I would default to "it is a hazard and once you figure out what it is, then you can try to convince me otherwise". After that, offer the 15 cents a mile for what you have for mileage minus your time/effort for all the repairs and have them buy the vehicle back.
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Re: Pilot Vibration [kabate]
by blackexv6
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Jan 12, 2007 (2:47 am)
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Replying to: kabate (Jan 11, 2007 6:20 pm)
Make sure you doucument each repair order. If the receipts acknowledge your complaint each time then files a Lemon Law suit against Honda. Check your state's laws for requirements.
I filed suit against Honda for our '06 Odyssey this past week. My attorney tried mediation with Honda's pre-litigation department but they concluded my problem was a "normal operating characteristic of the vehicle".
My documentation is a clear cut Lemon case win, however, it may take up to 9 months until award. If you have the willpower and good documentation (i.e. parts failing each time or written acknowledgement of the problem) then file a claim.
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FWD problem too???
by lawnmower
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Feb 24, 2007 (5:52 am)
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This seems to be an AWD problem. Anybody experience it with FWD vehicles. I like the Pilot be these complaints scare me.
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- #36 of 86
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Re: FWD problem too??? [lawnmower]
by ksayers
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Feb 24, 2007 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: lawnmower (Feb 24, 2007 5:52 am)
It is a defect that appears to be linked to AWD. Read the forum chain and I believe you will see that the vibration defect is AWD centric.
And... Honda has yet to admit the problem, much less fix it. The only group that sees the problem is the customer base. You may consider what that means.
Oh, by the way, test drive your Honda on a concrete highway and check the road noise. b-a-d
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