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Vibration Defect in 2006 4WD Honda Pilots

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How real is this vibration problem on Pilot AWD? by bcool
Dec 07, 2006 (3:14 pm)
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I'm wondering how real this vibration problem is. I didn't notice it on the test drive, but I just canceled my purchase of a '07 Pilot AWD EX-L after reading this bulletin board. It was a great deal and a beautiful SUV. I think that I'll hold off until I find out what's going on, or find something else. Would the Acura MDX have the same problem? I'm guessing that the AWD drive train is similar. There are no vibration issues on the Acura bulletin board.
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Re: How real is this vibration problem on Pilot AWD? [bcool] by ksayers
Dec 07, 2006 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: bcool (Dec 07, 2006 3:14 pm)

It is real, however, it is not always exhibited in every vehicle. Take a test drive on a smooth highway and vary your speed between 67 and 73 MPH. Avoid police. Be safe.
 
If your vehicle has "the disease" it will appear to have significant wind buffeting. The steering wheel doesn't shake, rather, it feels/sounds like... well.... wind buffeting. If you have the stereo turned up you will notice it less, therefore, always demo drive with the radio off.
 
This problem has been reported on multiple Honda 4WD models, including Acura's. It is not simply a "tire balance issue", although that may lessen it to some degree. One person reported that the problem went away when they removed a drive shaft. Tires still rotate but the problem was gone.
 
If you have a vehicle without the disease and at a good price, enjoy.
 
The problem is real, just not universally applied to every vehicle. And, apparently, Honda denies it.
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Re: Interior Vibration [darrickh] by jim70
Dec 07, 2006 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: darrickh (Dec 06, 2006 7:57 pm)

Hi darrickh,
 
I have read similar comments elsewhere about low frequency sound at slow speed. In some cases it was indicated that it may have to do with the Active Noise Cancellation system that is found on the Pilots with VCM. You might want to check the hondapilot.org site under "forums", "problems", then "deep thrumming sound". There is also an extensive section there regarding the vibration issue.
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Vibration and Noise by nvdriver
Dec 13, 2006 (6:58 am)
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I have been doing a fair amount of research on these topics and there seem to be two distinctly different issues:
 
Vibration: An apparently serious vibration that is most prominent around 70 MPH. This seems to affect a significant number of AWD Pilots going back at least to the 2005 model year. There are many comments, complaints and theories but the common thread seems to be that, for the people who have this problem, Honda has been unable to fix it.
 
Noise: There are many complaints about road noise, as well as a more recent surge in complaints about a strange low pitched noise on new Pilots with VCM. It appears that Honda is utilizing some sort of active noise cancellation which comes through the speakers of the stereo. Unfortunately, it looks like that may have created some problems of it's own.
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Re: Vibration and Noise [nvdriver] by ksayers
Dec 13, 2006 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: nvdriver (Dec 13, 2006 6:58 am)

Actually, 3 problems:
 
 - 70MPH vibration/shudder design defect, ignored or at
   least not acknowledged by Honda. They probably don't
   want a national recall, including the expense and
   publicity.
 
 - Road noise, makes having a radio totally useless.
 
 - Low pitched noise from ???? source.
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Pilot Vibration by pratzert
Dec 13, 2006 (2:57 pm)
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I bought a 2006 AWD EX-L Pilot 6 weeks ago and I am beside myself with this vibration.
 
I have had the tires road forced balanced and it helped "a little" but ONLY a little.
 
It's still there at 60-70. It's a very fast type of vibration.
 
If only I had felt it before I bought it. I assure you that I would NOT have bought the Pilot !
 
It's horrible and extremely distracting... so much so that I feel it's dangerous.
 
I drive my brand new Pilot very little now because of it and drive my Sebring instead.
 
How's THAT for a testimonial !
 
Tim
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Re: Pilot Vibration [pratzert] by miles267
Dec 13, 2006 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: pratzert (Dec 13, 2006 2:57 pm)

Can any new 2007 Honda EX-L 4WD owners comment on this vibration? Am ramping up to purchase one end of year or early next year but this has caught my attention. Especially since I want a relatively quiet vehicle so I can utilize bluetooth cell phone within. Thanks.
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Re: Pilot Vibration [miles267] by justaveragejoe
Dec 14, 2006 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: miles267 (Dec 13, 2006 5:24 pm)

I don't notice any vibrations in my 2007 except for the first hundred feet after it has been parked for a few days. I am sure that that is from flat spots on the tires from being parked so long, I can feel that in my other vehicle also. If you want a real quiet vehicle you should consider a sedan. Pushing a big box like the Pilot through the air at 60 mph will produce quite a bit of turbulence and wind noise.

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