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Encoder Motor Problem for 97 GMC Jimmy

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Encoder Motor Problem for 97 GMC Jimmy by willg121
Sep 18, 2006 (4:36 pm)
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Everytime I drive and get on the throttle until I get up to around 40 or 50 miles per hour and then back off the throttle, I begin to hear a whiring noise from the front end, sounds kinda like a drill scoring metal. Anyway, I've changed the control switch on the dash, and had the encoder motor replaced and it still does this when I get on the throttle.
 
Does anyone have any ideas what exactly the problem might be? My mechanic says that it sounds like the 4-wheel drive is trying to engage at a high speed, however, I'm not sure anymore since I had those things repaired.
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Re: Encoder Motor Problem for 97 GMC Jimmy [willg121] by repairdog
Sep 18, 2006 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: willg121 (Sep 18, 2006 4:36 pm)

Encoder motor is on the transfer case and puts the low gear in for 4Lo only. You have a coupler on the pass side of the front diff that locks when you select 4Hi and 4Lo so the axles both spin then. There is a vac line that runs down to an actuator under the battery tray that may have a vac leak in the line or the diaphram leak on the actuator so the coupler is only partially engaging. Your system also has vac line connector on top of the transfer case (not on 98up) and a sensor on that axle and transfer case to tell the 4wd computer the state of the coupler and transfer case. The front diff and transfer case fluids could also be low and causing a whine.
A final problem/fix these have is the computer sometimes hangs up so disconncet the battery for 30 minutes and then reconnect and see it the condition clears - it sometimes does.
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Didn't Think of That...So What's it Cost? by willg121
Sep 18, 2006 (5:16 pm)
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My next question is, how costly is this to repair if it's indeed the vac line leaking or the diaphram leaking?
 
I mean, I've put in a lot of money to fix this truck. First it was the fuel pump dying on me, and now this. I'm hoping this is the last repair I have to do to this truck.
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Re: Didn't Think of That...So What's it Cost? [willg121] by repairdog
Sep 19, 2006 (2:38 am)
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Replying to: willg121 (Sep 18, 2006 5:16 pm)

Vac lines are simple and 5/32 or 7/32" line you can do. Actuator part isn't much its the labor. As for repairs assume this one has over 100k miles so there are some things that could go wrong still, common/normal for these are: AC, water pump and flush system, alternator, hubs, ball joints, ignition switch module (97 only), and then on all vehicles brakes. Have to do maintenence on all cases with new fluids and no one does so they fail. Electric pumps are all in the tank now and if drivers run low often they heat up and fail sooner. Decision on a vehicle is always a personal one.
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Thankfully, I'm Still Under 86,000 Miles by willg121
Sep 19, 2006 (5:23 am)
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Like the title says. Anyway, I'm going to just get it fixed, whatever it costs is whatever it costs. I just hate the labor aspect.
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Re: Thankfully, I'm Still Under 86,000 Miles [willg121] by repairdog
Sep 19, 2006 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: willg121 (Sep 19, 2006 5:23 am)

I do most of my own - have 4 of them so I know - seen many of the common problems and I'm in FL so sweat alot in the summer fixing them! Relax and enjoy life!
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Checked it Out by willg121
Sep 20, 2006 (6:44 am)
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I had all the things you said checked, and nobody can find anything wrong anywhere. Fluid levels were good, vac hoses were good. So I don't know what else there might be. Any ideas?
 
Also, I'm going to take my truck off of its battery for the half hour you suggested when I return from an errand, but otherwise everything else checked out.
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99' Chev Blazer 4x4 will not engage? by jackassjay
Oct 31, 2006 (9:11 pm)
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I have a 99' Chev Blazer and went to use the 4x4, but to no avail. I can press the button on the fly and in park and in neutral and nothing. All it does is flash the 4hi button and goes back to 2hi. I can hear it trying to engage at the transfer case but it sound like the encoder motor is seized or dying. It does this as well when I try 4lo. I'm at the end of my rope this ride as it only has 120,000 km. I've replaced so much it's rediculous. I need to fix to sell....Thanks Jay
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Re: 99' Chev Blazer 4x4 will not engage? [jackassjay] by repairdog
Nov 01, 2006 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: jackassjay (Oct 31, 2006 9:11 pm)

Read posts above and try 4Hi first - no encoder motor for that only the front axle coupler. You also have a solenoid on the firewall so see if that works - follow the vac lines.
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Re: Encoder Motor Problem for 97 GMC Jimmy [repairdog] by schorndog
Nov 07, 2006 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: repairdog (Sep 18, 2006 5:04 pm)

I'm having the same type problem with my 97 Blazer but I can't get into 4 wd high, I can get into low 4wd, transmission garage looked at and they figured computer(control module) in dash($390 gm part without labor)- I then went to the local dealership and they diagnosised as the transfer case encoder motor (the gm motor was $580 without labor) I found the motors new at local parts distributor for 1/3 that, but with what I have read here it has cast doubts on the encoder motor....at the cost of these parts I'm trying to eliminate any question...

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