Last post on Jan 03, 2012 at 6:28 PM
You are in the Acura MDX
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Acura MDX, BMW X5, SUV
#72 of 185 Re: May '07 Car and Driver Comparison [anon3]
Jan 05, 2008 (10:56 am)
Who needs a V-8 option, when the V-6 in the Acura beats some V-8's?? Also, when the gas prices hit $4 , like they are now, you wouldn't want one. Also, whats against the stylling of the MDX? People just hardly look at it, and call it"a minivan", just because, back in 2001, it had a third row seat(which was pretty rare in vehicles that time). This minivan thing continues even today, in its new generation. Personally, the BMW looks like a 3 series, on stilts, and looks like it will tip over one day. But I can't argue, though, 'cuz its up to your opinion. Also, you said that there was a sea of Acura MDX's in your area---where do you live??!! I'd like to know, because I live in Dallas, Texas, and it is rare to see an MDX. And to this time in the forum, based on what people are saying, I'm leaning towards the MDX.
#73 of 185 Re: May '07 Car and Driver Comparison [tpulak]
Jan 06, 2008 (8:55 am)
tpulak, just a note but you are responding to a post dated April 07. What that said, I am going through the process of selecting a replacement for our current family hauler, a 06 Volvo XC90 V8. The three being considered are the Q7, X5 and MDX. Each model has pros & cons (but that is typical in any vehicle comparison). At the moment both the X5 and MDX are the front runners (with a slight edge to the MDX).
While styling is very subjective, it is my opinion that the X5 is the best looking vehicle, inside and out. It has the best ride but the base engine needs a bit more tuning. The soon to be available diesel option would be very attractive. Lot's of torque and good fuel economy. The downside is the price tag. For a comparably equipped model, X5 to MDX, I would need to spend another $9k. While within my financial reach, I'm not sure that I can justify it.
The MDX is a good vehicle. The front could use a redesign but in a dark color it doesn't look as bad. Again, this is my opinion but also is noted in most auto reviews. At a potential $44k purchase price, fully loaded, this is a bargin. I wish the MDX had the smart key access, 6-speed auto and real wood (the fake stuff is a bit shinny) but it is not a deal breaker for me.
Why would someone want a V8? A V8 provides better low-end torque which results in a better setup for towing. While the MDX might be rated for 5000 lbs of towing, it may struggle a bit under full load.
#74 of 185 Re: May '07 Car and Driver Comparison [tpulak]
Jan 07, 2008 (10:15 am)
..... the BMW looks like a 3 series, on stilts, and looks like it will tip over one day .....
My wife and I recently alternated between driver and shotgun driving new V-8 X5's around the off-road circuit at their performance driving school. It was uncanny how far the X5 could lean sideways and not tip over. The instructor said the max left-right tilt we encountered on that course was + / - 35 degrees, and the X5 is capable of up to 45 degrees.
We also took turns driving a 3.0 I-6 X5 around a short road race circuit, going as fast as we wanted to / as fast as we could go, over the same course where we were driving sedans and coupes. I was absolutely amazed at how well the X5 did. It wasn't as fast as the cars we drove, but the handling really impressed me, especially considering the mass and height.
#75 of 185 Re: May '07 Car and Driver Comparison [chrism124]
Jan 09, 2008 (6:26 am)
Just wondering... what makes you not want to get another XC90, if you don't mind me asking? I have an 06 MDX and while I LOVE this vehicle, I find that when I see the XC90's driving by, I still drool... When the lease is up next winter, an 08 MDX will definitely be a front-runner, but I will be very seriously considering the XC90 and X5 once again.
You mentioned the XC90 as your "family hauler", so I am curious what the downsides are in that capacity?
I have three children, who will be 11, 8, and 4 when we replace our MDX. Any thoughts? TIA
#76 of 185 Re: May '07 Car and Driver Comparison [love2driveinct]
Jan 09, 2008 (6:55 am)
There are two major things (IMO) to consider between those three vehicles with regards to your situation (fairly large family). I have an '07 MDX and it will comfortably hold 7 people with 2 of them being children in the rumble seat. And there is still room for some stuff behind the third row. I don't know if you could say that about the XC90 or the X5. The second is reliability. The Volvo's has been atrocious with the X5 not far behind. This second gen MDX will surely have superior reliability compared to those two. Well I guess there's three things, price. The MDX will be 5-7k less when comparably equipped.
#77 of 185 Re: May '07 Car and Driver Comparison [upstatedoc]
Jan 09, 2008 (8:42 am)
I really like the way the XC90 looks too, but it seems like when I see an XC90 on a pre-owned lot, there is always a lot of wear obvious on both the interior and exterior of the vehicle. It has left me with the perception that they just simply don't hold up as well as some others in the class. Of course, it could just mean that the ones that I've seen were just abused. It is one beautiful vehicle though. I particularly like the dash and console design.
#78 of 185 Re: May '07 Car and Driver Comparison [chrism124]
Jan 09, 2008 (9:05 am)
FWIW: I just went through the process myself - 2000 Landcruiser needed an upgrade. Because I need a 3rd row for carpooling choices were narrowed to MDX, XC90, Mercedes GL, X5 and Audi Q7. I would have gotten another Landcruiser in a second if it didn't cost $75k and look like a Highlander. Friends with the Volvo had the car in the shop all the time (3 actually turned in before end of lease!). Didn't like Mercedes - DVD changer was under back seat, awful interior door material, bad nav.
We narrowed our choices down to MDX, X5 and Q7 and then started thinking about gas mileage and eliminated Q7 (I really did like it but 12/17 is a buzzkill). I thought that the MDX and the X5 both handled really well. Neither has a spacious 3rd row, but it's only for kids and they fit just fine. My husband has the Acrua RL and I have to say that the nav stinks compared to the BMW. I liked the one knob that controls all on the BMW. Acrua you have to hit a diff button for ac, nav, audio and there isn't a split screen like BMW where you can have nav on and music details up at the same time.
I'm a little embarassed to say that in the end, it came down to looks for me. I chose the X5 because I think the MDX looks like a Transformer. So I paid an extra $9k got the better nav with the better looks.
I've had the X5 now for a month and I LOVE IT! Best decision for us. Best of luck!
#79 of 185 Re: May '07 Car and Driver Comparison [love2driveinct]
Jan 09, 2008 (10:02 am)
We considered another XC90 but kept it as a fourth choice behind the MDX, X5 and Q7. Do not misunderstand me; the XC90 is a good vehicle. In my opinion, it has a classic exterior design, great V8 engine, good cargo capacity, and the general sense that if you were in an accident, you and your passengers would survive. It also has been very reliable. While others have had problems, mine has never been in the shop except for an inspection sticker and oil changes. The Volvo is an old design. I believe the first model year was 2003. The vehicles that we are looking at are newer but not first year run (which can be problematic). My wife and I made a list of options that we wanted on the next vehicle. This included Bluetooth, Rear Camera, Nav, 3 rows of seats and iPod connectivity. Volvo does offer most of these options but their implementation is a bit poor. We have only two kids and need the 3rd row for, believe it or not, the dog. He wears a harness and is seat-belted in.
The XC90 is a good “family hauler”. However I would not want to put a teenager in the 3rd row. It might be a bit tight. The 4-year old should not have a problem. I also found the front leg space to be a bit tight. Noticeable on longer car rides.
The X5 would be my first choice but the 9k difference is a bit much. I agree the MDX doesn’t look as clean as the X5 but the 9k can be use elsewhere. If I was leasing the vehicle, I would go with the X5. But I am jumping off the leasing merry-go-round.
For the argument of reliability of Asian built vehicles over others, we had a 04 MDX for 2-years. It was in the shop 6 times for warranty related work. My 07 Lexus has been in the shop 5 times. Both of my prior BMW’s and the current Volvo never had warranty related work done. It could be luck or another reason but just my .02.
#81 of 185 Re: May '07 Car and Driver Comparison [chrism124]
Jan 09, 2008 (10:30 am)
So did you end up going with the '08 MDX? I think the 2nd gen MDX is sharp. Not too many of them around here but when I see one coming towards me from the other direction I say "Hey that's a sharp looking vehicle". The X5 and XC90 look like their sedan counterparts, only higher. I like the transformer look, it's futuristic.