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#986 of 2880 Message from Caddy dealer
by len00
Jun 30, 2007 (11:52 am)
Thank you for your interest in the 2008 Cadillac CTS. We have already placed stock orders and expect to have one in stock late August at which time we expect to have pricing. You could order one now subject to 2007 pricing plus any increase.
Let me know how I can assist you.
I don't really know exactly what this means but I E-mailed back asking for some hard numbers and that I would be interested in ordering if the GMS price is a good one. I will get back to this forum when I receive a reply...
Len
#987 of 2880 Re: GMS Price [louiswei]
by ortega
Jun 30, 2007 (11:59 am)
At 50k, the CTS would be too close in pricing to the 08 STS (an STS w/Premium Performance and Luxury pkgs goes for like $54k). They have to bring it in much lower to reinforce the value proposition in relation to the competition. IMO, Cadillac is not yet in a position to command $50k for their "entry-level" sedan, even with all options - it would not make market sense. As an entry-level car in the line, it would definitely be compared to the likes of a TL, G, C-class, 3-series (all these are in the 33-45k range) and therefore be priced accordingly. I think they need to try to keep pricing under $45k all in for this car. Unless GM plans to introduce something smaller to compete with the cars mentioned above, they have stay in line with them.
#988 of 2880 Re: GMS Price [louiswei]
by ortega
Jun 30, 2007 (12:01 pm)
I'll bet you a case of your drink of choice that this car does not approch $50k fully loaded...not possible.
#989 of 2880 Re: Any new info.... [150mphclub]
by ortega
Jun 30, 2007 (12:06 pm)
The dimensions and specs referencing the outgoing model have been removed from the online ordering guide at http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/ I assume that means they're going to post the correct specs & dimensions soon.
Jun 30, 2007 (8:07 pm)
I hope you are correct. I am willing to consider $47,999 as the new price for an all optioned, AWD version.
I would be both pleased and somewhat pleasantly surprised to hear that such a version was priced equal to or less than $45K.
#991 of 2880 Re: GMS Price [ortega]
by louiswei
Jun 30, 2007 (8:54 pm)
I'll bet you a case of your drink of choice that this car does not approch $50k fully loaded...not possible.
You're on. Make it Corona plus a bag of limes please.
A "fully loaded" (with navi) BMW 335i has a MSRP about $52K. Top of the line IS350 goes for around 48K and G35 for about $45K. Since the new CTS is more comparable to the 5-series/GS/E-class I don't think a fully loaded, top of the line version with a MSRP of $50K is unreasonable.
#992 of 2880 Re: GMS Price [ortega]
by thebug
Jun 30, 2007 (11:27 pm)
ortega - I agree, it can't go that high because it will be too close to the next in the line,and that just doesn't make good business sense. 50K range would probably knock the STS (or both vehicles)out the box. Both couldn't be that close to the same price.
I think it will come in at 37.5K top of the line standard features only or base price, and with all the bells and whistles at about 44.5K. I want all but the sunroof, and I think I can get it OTD for 44K. But I guess we'll have to wait and see.
thebug...
#993 of 2880 Re: GMS Price [thebug]
by senbonzakura
Jul 01, 2007 (12:37 am)
Some of you don't realize that they redesigned the STS for the 2008 year. Its priced around $42,390 - $51,810. They didn't redesign the CTS just to throw away all the improvements on the STS and make that obsolete. In order for cadillac to gain marketshare and win back buyers who have turned to foreign carmakers they need to price the cadillac competitively.
#994 of 2880 Re: GMS Price [louiswei]
by markcincinnati
Jul 01, 2007 (11:51 am)
The new CTS is more comparable to the 5 series, etc?
At this time, the CTS is NOT a member of the LPS family. The STS is compared and discussed in the same forums, the same breath, so to speak.
The CTS is -- at least for the time being -- in the Entry LPS family.
The CTS (NOT the CTS-V) at $50K, will have, IMHO, few takers -- i.e., at that price, at THIS time, a $50K MSRP is unreasonable, perhaps very unreasonable.
Now, I do agree that the wheelbase of the CTS is "comparable" to the Audi A6, the BMW 5, and so on. But in this case, "size" (alone) does not matter (much.)
The CTS pre-press is very encouraging, but I would think it will take some time (years) for the CTS to be included in the LPS family.
Folks (like me) MAY consider the CTS for its extra wheelbase and interior volume -- also folks (like me) are unlikely to consider it a direct competitor with the rest of the LPS "usual suspects" (see the LPS forum right here on edmunds for a complete list of who is and who ain't.)
What was it they used to say, "beer has bubbles, champagne has bubbles; but, they are, generally speaking, NOT substitutes for each other."
I would probably imagine folks will look at a new A4, 3 series and/or "C" class Mercedes and wander over to the Cadillac showroom for a look see at the new CTS.
I remain, "completely certain and often mistaken."
Jul 01, 2007 (11:58 am)
I agree with the OTD statement. But, count me in on the "beer bet" -- a top o' the line version at $47,999 with an OTD price of $44-ish-K or VERY favorable lease price (perhaps after 6 months) seems "prudent."