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#949 of 2880 Re: 2008 CTS. I would worry more about the 3.6L
May 30, 2007 (7:59 am)
It looks sharp but I would be more concerned about the 3.6L engine than what the car looks like.
I have a 2005 CTS 3.6L with 30500 miles. At 26K I had an engine noise (a rattle just after starting for about 2-3 seconds) that started just after a LOF. I was told it was a bad starter (which I thought was weird at the time) but the dealer replaced it under warranty. The noise came back at 29K and I check the oil and it was not even on the stick. I added 3 quarts and immediately took it to the dealer for a LOF and checkup. It had about 3500 miles since the last LOF. I was shocked and somewhat naive that a 2005 Cadillac using Mobil 1 (BTW, Oil/filter change $65.00) would be burning oil at that rate with 29K on it. Now at 30500, 1500 miles since last change I am low almost 2 Qts again and I hear the noise again. I have never seen any warning lights or messages and I see no signs of leaks. My oil life is about 55-60% and between 3000-3600 miles between oil/filter changes. Seventy-five percent of my driving is highway with the rest is city getting on and off the highway. I am very fussy about my cars and watch and listen for anything abnormal. For the first 8-12K I check the oil on a regular basis because I did not have a history about this car/engine. I noticed it got dirty faster than my Chevy engines and at 3000miles it was less than 1/2 qt low and I wrote that off as still engine break in time. After that I stopped checking it, the dealer never said it was low when it was in for service. So something happened between 12K and 26K that it is now using over a quart per 1000 miles. Definitely not acceptable in my book. It was my first Cadillac and it was my last. My 87 Monte Carlo SS 305 has 110000 miles on in and donít burn 1 quart in over 3000 miles. Thatís acceptable! Oil/filter change $18.00
#950 of 2880 Re: 2008 CTS. I would worry more about the 3.6L [breaga01]
May 30, 2007 (8:30 am)
What is an LOF.
#951 of 2880 Re: 2008 CTS. I would worry more about the 3.6L [bingoman]
May 30, 2007 (8:31 am)
Lube Oil Filter
#952 of 2880 Re: 2008 CTS - Optionless Vehicle again????
May 30, 2007 (9:16 am)
I have a 2005 CTS 3.6L with the Luxury Opt which donít give you much for the cost of the vehicle. Unless GM adds some options as standard equipment I will not be upgrading to the 2008 model. MY 2002 Chevy Trail Blazer had more options than they put in the CTS. i.e. Heated seats. CTS have High/low. Wow! GM really went over board there. The Trail Blazer had High/Low but also had separate controls for seat and seat backs. Day/Night mirror. CTS only had it for the Inside. The Trail Blazer had it also on the drivers outside. On the Computer Information Panel, the CTS really SUCKS here. They put all the displays on the radio and you have to skip through about 15 different views to get the ones you want to really see. They should have left the temp up on the mirror like other GM products. Put the instant mileage and trip sets in the dash with the odometer like other GM products. Take that damn radio volume dial knob off the steering wheel. It sticks up to high and your hand is always hitting it while turning and turning the radio volume blasting you out of the car. VSK-Very Stupid Knob. NO MP3 connector, MP3 have only been around for 5-6 years now but GM is not in touch with what consumers want in their autos. I could keep going but I think you get my point. GM skimped big time on putting some features on the CTS that come on CHEVY's. I understand it is the low-end model but it is a Cadillac. GM is trying to reach out to younger buyers purchasing BMW, Lexus, Infinity, etc., and other fine luxury cars, its about time they started producing them. GMís thinking it to move you up the product line to the STS, DTS, SRX. I will move up on my next vehicle, it will just be to a competitor.
#953 of 2880 What the [CTS] world needs now. . . .?
May 30, 2007 (12:45 pm)
Now with the Nissans and the "rest" of the more pedestrian cars having so many features and so much content, it seems only natural the Cadillac should have:
Power operated everything (expansion on this theme below).
Both front seats should be power operated and the driver's seat should be equipped with memory.
Heated/cooled front and rear seats (even if extra cost).
Bladder in front seats with controls to inflate/deflate.
Heated steering wheel, power articulated tilt and telescoping standard.
Servotronic steering at least
Stabilitrac with brake assist or whatever they call it.
Navigation with a backup camera plus rear, at least, parktronic sensors.
Pushbutton start. Smart key, proximity sensor.
Bluetooth with full voice control of the dialing functions.
Inside and outside electrochromic mirrors.
Turnsignals in outside mirrors.
Compass in mirror.
Heads up display.
Lane departure warning.
Automatic cruise control.
Voice activation of the sound system (changing channels, etc.)
Voice activation of the nav system.
High zoot sound system option (even if it is BOSE.)
Power rear sunshade.
Xenon articulating headlights.
Sat radio with integration with nav system.
Rear biased AWD (optional).
18" wheels standard with 19"'s optional.
Now, it does appear, the Cadillac CTS will have lots (most) of this "content." Even the more exotic content seems doable and there probably would be a market for it, even if extra cost.
Ones that were deal breakers for some of us, included Bluetooth. I have become quite a fan of the proximity feature of the smart key systems -- I can take or leave push button start, however. I have grown to appreciate the voice commands for their contribution to safe driving.
When a Ford SUV has most of this stuff and when a Nissan Altima has most of this stuff, well -- there you have it.
The Cadillac needs "more stuff" -- even at optional prices -- just to be considered a "current" vintage vehicle.
Just seems the bar (content) keeps getting higher and higher -- be a shame if Cadillac didn't keep up with the technology that is readily available.
#954 of 2880 Re: 2008 CTS - Optionless Vehicle again???? [breaga01]
May 30, 2007 (4:33 pm)
The CTS comes with a USB port in the center console with full ipod integration (from what I've read). The IP, right under the speedo, has a driver information center which will display the trip odos and other vehicle information (like mileage, veh status, etc.). It may also appear in the NAV/Radio pop-up screen as you said, but you can find what you're seeking right in front of you as well. The steering wheel audio controls are buttons, not dials or knobs - you probably won't hit them by mistake (a dial or knob would be horrible). The front seats (up to 10-way control BTW) can be heated AND cooled, and judging by the up/down arrows for what temperature in the pictures I've seen there will be levels of control beyond just hot or cold. I think GM has done a pretty good packaging job for this car - the available and standard options should satisfy most buyers. The only thing I could not find was the auto-dimming outside rearview mirror and since information on the car is not 100% available yet - I would hope that this would come standard. Don't give up on GM just yet - I actually think they're getting it right this time. As for me - this is the first time I am actually even considering buying a car from a US automaker.
You can check it out for yourself through the links below:
Hope that helps...
#955 of 2880 Re: 2008 CTS - Optionless Vehicle again???? [ortega]
Jun 02, 2007 (8:15 am)
your links contain information that is many months old. The motorauthority link is dated January.
#956 of 2880 Re: 2008 CTS - Optionless Vehicle again???? [150mphclub]
Jun 02, 2007 (10:35 am)
The age of the information, in this case, does not make it any less accurate. The motorauthority link sources its information from official Cadillac press releases - it's not speculation. Unfortunately, this is the most current information available until more information is released by GM as launch approaches. If you check the "News" section of the allnewcts website, you'll can see the actual Cadillac press releases. If you take the time to read them, you'll see that the motorauthority link is basically quoting the GM press release.
I posted the links so that you could see that some of the comments/assumptions you were making about the content of the vechicle were incorrect. I was simply trying to be helpful.
The autoblog link just provides photos (so you could see the buttons on the wheel, the temp control for the seats and the IP info display). The Cadillac link is updated as GM sees fit (and it has not been since March - except for a few videos) as is the GM online order guide (that was updated last week with a few corrections).
Jun 02, 2007 (2:22 pm)
My local Cadillac dealer tells me prioing on the CTS will be available in approximately two weeks.
#958 of 2880 Re: FWIW [carnaught]
Jun 02, 2007 (2:39 pm)
I suppose that means we should see pricing very soon then.