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#840 of 2880 Re: When? [150mphclub]
Apr 22, 2007 (3:25 pm)
What's going to be even more impressive is when you see the 2009' CTS-V out run C5 Corvette's Z0-6's and just maybe a C6 Vette It will be worth watching what the 0-60 and quarter mile times will be on the 09 "V". Some say 515 hp. Some say 550 hp. and a lot say 600 hp. I am hoping it will be 600 hp. as that would be such a awesome number in a sedan, let alone a Cadillac.
#841 of 2880 My problem with the CTS is
Apr 22, 2007 (4:04 pm)
It'll be compared mostly with the G35, a similar sized and powered sedan, that offers a coupe, also has AWD, and loaded is hard pressed to reach $40k. Value is a major card for the Infiniti.
I think this puts pressure on Lexus to add either AWD or a manual to the IS350, or more power to the 250.
Looks like a contenda, doh.
#842 of 2880 Re: My problem with the CTS is [drfill]
Apr 22, 2007 (4:13 pm)
I still would of liked to see them add a few more ponies under the hood. Like 330 hp would of been good.
#843 of 2880 Re: ... [bruceomega]
Apr 22, 2007 (5:07 pm)
I would be amazed if in reality the AWD 3 or 5 series accelerate faster than the RWD versions (unless we are talking about on snow/ice or somesuch). Those cars weigh about 200 lbs more than their RWD versions so NO WAY should they get to 60 faster, especially since the RWD versions have traction control and will not allow wheel spin. Others please post it they have other info, but I doubt it.
#844 of 2880 Re: My problem with the CTS is [rockylee]
Apr 22, 2007 (5:21 pm)
at some point, people have to be a bit more realistic about HP. It sounds great to say that (whatever you have) goes 0-60 in 5.0 seconds, or whatever, but for most of us: so what? Only 20 years ago or so, it was a huge deal to go 0-60 in less than 7 seconds. Today, practically every car claiming to be "sporty" does it. Problem is that driving ability has not changed that much and we already have too many hot dogs with zero driving ability, out of control on our roads. I bet that most people on this forum who claim that they need max acceleration, have never been to a driving school and usually spend most of their drives in stop and go traffic. Doesn't mean that they should not aspire to high performance cars, but whether you need a Z06 vs. a regular Corvette, or a 328 vs. a 335 BMW is probably worth some consideration.
#845 of 2880 Re: My problem with the CTS is [pearl]
Apr 22, 2007 (5:36 pm)
You make a valid point and yes 300 hp. is plenty but power does help sell the vehicle and the 08' CTS should of took the initiative to out power BMW, Lexus, Infiniti, while they had a chance. I'm not dissapointed with "only" 300 hp. but I would of liked to see around 30 or 40 more hp. especially since the CTS-V might double the base CTS in power output and there was just plenty of room in the base CTS, to make class leading power without coming close to the "V"
#846 of 2880 Re: When? [rockylee]
Apr 22, 2007 (7:16 pm)
You definitely were, and thanks Rocky. Did I miss what the rear leg room is going to be? I just don't want to hear another backseater complaining about not being able to find room for their feet.
#847 of 2880 Re: When? [oldranger1]
Apr 22, 2007 (7:20 pm)
It is the same as the 07' CTS. The only thing that happened is it grew 2 inches wider (off the top of my head)
P.S. Glad to be of help !
#848 of 2880 Re: My problem with the CTS is [pearl]
Apr 23, 2007 (3:30 am)
I bet that most people on this forum who claim that they need max acceleration, have never been to a driving school and usually spend most of their drives in stop and go traffic. Doesn't mean that they should not aspire to high performance cars, but whether you need a Z06 vs. a regular Corvette, or a 328 vs. a 335 BMW is probably worth some consideration.
I could not agree more. I am a certified track instructor with SCCA and NASA and it's hilariously funny when people come to the track for the first time, usually 2 groups, punky kids with their rice-rocket fast and furious cars or middle aged guys with their BMW 5 series, Caddy CTS, or Dodge Charger SRT8s. I have on more than one occasion gotten out there in the "novice" group with my 150,000 miles Subaru Legacy putting out 165 hp when new in 1994 and ran laps around these guys.
It's amazing how humbling it can be during the course of the day to see these very confident cocky people (both the younguns and the middle age folks) turn around and really realize that they need to concentrate on their skills more than what modifications they can do to their car or which new expensive sporty ride they want to buy, depening which demographic they are in.
As we say at the track school "fix the nut behind the wheel" The best part of actually learning to performance drive especially a car like the CTS or CTS V is that you can actually take advantage of all these new and technologically advanced cars have to offer, along with the fact that you can actually transfer your skill set from car to car.
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#849 of 2880 AWD \ RWD accel Re: ... [pearl]
Apr 23, 2007 (3:42 am)
“I would be amazed if in reality the AWD 3 or 5 series accelerate faster than the RWD versions . . . especially since the RWD versions have traction control and will not allow wheel spin. Others please post it they have other info, but I doubt it.”
Your post reminded me of the one thing that could possibly result in the AWD version being quicker in the ‘real world’ despite the additional weight & rotating mass:
The 335i has no LSD. And with that much torque, that low down in the RPM range, it appears possible that the addition of AWD might increase the launch traction sufficiently to reduce the 0-60 time with all 4 tires applying TQ. Traction control typically will not allow ( too much ) wheel spin – but will often reduce power & cost time in the process. And most published numbers are obtained with Traction Control turned ‘off’.
I doubt we’ll see a published test with a RWD & AWD version of the 3, or a CTS running back-to-back on the same day\track.
Happy to keep traction control ‘on’ in the real world . . .