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Cadillac CTS-V, Cadillac CTS, Sedan
#689 of 2880 Re: We need some road tests [snakeweasel]
Mar 08, 2007 (6:11 am)
Growing up, I thought Cadillac was the badge appeal car. Even today I have some remaining memories and am sometimes reminded of them when someone says "that fill-in-the-blank is the Cadillac of that fill-in-the-blank."
BMW does seem to be in the business of renting cars -- they are often heavily subvented, that is. Perhaps you are correct it would be better to buy a car and keep it. But in SOME cases the buy costs double the lease for the same period of time. For some, it seems too dear a price to pay, even if my accountant's general statement is unwise.
One thing the CTS will have going for it, however, that makes me wonder about buy and hold (favorably) is the 100,000 mile 5 year warranty. The recent report showing the reliability ratings of some 36 cars puts Cadillac in the bottom 1/3 or perhaps even bottom 1/4. Audi is in the top 1/3 and BMW the middle third -- Mercedes is dead last, lower even than VW. My friend with a CTS says the thing has been trouble free for over 3 years.
I liked the feel behind the wheel of both the current CTS and the SRX -- and the styling, polarizing for some, is more to my taste than a BMW 5.
I'm coming up on the last 15 months of my Audi 36 month lease. The car, now on its second set of tires, and second battery in the key fob has been a joy in almost every way.
The fact that the 2007 Audi is almost impossible to discern from a 2005 is also a reason to wonder "should I CPO it and keep it as snakeweasel and others here suggest?" Or, should I spring for the new CTS which, I still contend, will offer similar features as a 2008 to those already in my 2005?
If the cost to do either is very close, wouldn't I be better off to go with the newer car rather than keep the older one, despite my affection and positive history with it?
Anyway, the magnaride question will play a part -- try one with and without it, this is a great technology.
#690 of 2880 07 CTS vs 08 CTS
Mar 08, 2007 (6:37 am)
I wanted to see what kind of price I could get on a 07 CTS. I was able to get it for almost $2300 below invoice. I kept thinking to myself. Do I really want to shell out $33k on a car that looks really outdated (now that they went public with the 08 CTS), or would I rather spend a little more and get a newer model with a much nicer interior.
I decided to hold off. My 98 Grand Prix, which I have owned for nine years, is still holding up well (minus some rust). I'm hoping I can get one more year out of my Grand Prix and get a 08 CTS or maybe a 08 GMC Acadia...yeah I know...totally different kinds of cars.
#691 of 2880 MagnaRide, CTS-v
Mar 08, 2007 (11:43 am)
More posts here from you, Mark, than I have seen in the LPS forum in a while.
Interesting, as always.
I decided to survey the posts here because I ( guilty of the New Car Every XX Months syndrome – CCBA ) might at least look at a sedan next time out.
I now drive a Corvette Coupe.
And the 2008 CTS pictures I have seen ( perhaps there will be one at the Atlanta Show this weekend ? ) seem to indicate exterior styling more to my liking than the current model. Though I admit to needing to see such 3-D objects as cars in the flesh ( in the metal and plastic & rubber ) before making any final determination.
The CTS-v, if ( eventually ) available with a 6 speed manumatic may be of particular interest, when introduced. Depending on many specifications not yet officially released ( size, HP & TQ of the new V8 for that version, for example ) and exactly what styling changes are included in the “–v”, and price, I may be looking seriously.
Addicted to [ great steaming piles of ] TQ . . .
I see no mention here:
#692 of 2880 Re: 2008 CTS [pearl]
Mar 08, 2007 (2:40 pm)
What's the current thinking on when the '08 CTS will be at the dealers?
#693 of 2880 Re: We need some road tests [markcincinnati]
Mar 09, 2007 (3:26 am)
Mark, I would look for magneride to be available on the
CTS-V or later be available. Next time I talk to Cadillac I will offer it as a product suggestion. Cadillac, has said they worked hard to get the suspension right. The G8 GXP/GTX based off the Holden Commodore HSV will have Delphi's Magneride system and it's adjustable FYI. This should perhaps give us a clue that it might be available on the CTS someday. It might take a few years to make it. I love Magneride also as I had it on my 2002' Cadillac Seville STS. The Buick Lucerne CXS, Corvette, DTS, STS, SRX, Holden HSV's, and future G8 GXP/GTX models will have it also. The 2010' Buick Velite Sedan will have it also.
Mar 09, 2007 (10:35 am)
I can definately say that the magnetic ride technology is...
It's like the car went through some sort of wierd time-warp and suddenly you get a suspension that's what you'd expect after over a century of making them. It makes standard suspensions look exactly like trying to do math with a slide-rule when there's this new electronic device calle a calculator. Hopelessly slow and outdated. Last century. Some guy hammering metal into a crude shape and calling it a suspension part.
Versus something that looks like it belongs on some future tech show on Discovery Channel.
Test drive the base model Lucerne with the V8 option. Now drive the CXS. The only difference between them other than 1 inch on the rims is the magnetic ride suspension. And it's exactly like the difference between a 3 and a M3. Something drastic just happened. Looks the same on the outside but two totally different animals.
No torque steer. No lurching, no wobbling and floating through turns. No diving when you stop. It's all.. just... gone. That Lucerne suddenly drives like a late 90s S-Class.(yes it SO doesn't seem possible until you drive it)
If they put Magnetic Ride on the new CTS, it'll without a doubt eat the IS350 for lunch, shred the G, and make the 5 series look like the overpriced yuppie bling-mobile that it is. (Mercedes... yeah they need to get away from Chrysler ASAP - they just dont compete anymore)
Mar 09, 2007 (10:39 am)
You nailed it!
And, despite some other "yea buts" that I might PERSONALLY want to debate, I have to agree:
"If they put MagnaRide on the new CTS. . ." well, hell, there's a new sheriff in town.
Probably would make profit too at an add on price of, perhaps $1,500 to $1,750 MSRP. Don't cha think!?!
#697 of 2880 Re: ... [markcincinnati]
Mar 12, 2007 (9:29 pm)
I'm going to e-mail Cadillac, about this.......
#698 of 2880 Re: ... [rockylee]
Mar 12, 2007 (10:36 pm)
I e-mailed on the edmunds.com "2008'CTS forum" request that Magnetic Ride Control be available for the 2008' Cadillac CTS. I also asked when bluetooth would be available on the 08's as it's been delayed here so the europeans can get it first and I went off in a rant that we get neglected even though us americans are the most loyal buyers. I'll be looking forward to my response.