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Cadillac CTS-V, Cadillac CTS, Sedan
#506 of 2880 Re: 1487 [merc1]
Jan 31, 2007 (7:18 pm)
Right I missed the part in which you agreed with Rocky at every turn about what GM was going to do next year and how the "2007" models are no so much better, while trying to forget the crap GM already heaved onto the road prior.
Why are you bringing me into this dude ?
We had our beef in the car mag forum what 3 months or so ago ????? I've tried to be nothing but nice to you. I've complimented your car choice and liked your Mercedes Convertible, even though I wouldn't waste my money on one and could buy a nicer new GM car for the money but regardless it is your money. I've made honest attempts to try to get a long with you.
Merc1, I come in this forum to talk about the 2008' Cadillac CTS and all I read from you is not about the 08' CTS but posts that run Cadillac's and General Motors into the ground. Your post's parrot Car and Driver editors who have a very obvious anti-GM bias. I know you think your posts are credible but in reality they are becoming a eyesore to the majority of us. It's the same old rhetoric that is posted in various forums. The past mistakes by GM, have been admitted so why keep bringing them up. It's not like Mercedes Benz and BMW, have squeaky clean pasts. They both still rank at the bottom in intial quality and long-term reliability.
I agree with others that we all don't want track cars for our automobiles. GM, has built more high performance automobiles in it's history than both Mercedes Benz and BMW combined One other fact for you to choke on is General Motors, has built cars such as the Corvette that will out-run any factory car from Mercedes Benz and BMW's assembly line.
So can we please get this forum back on-topic and quit the GM bashing. I'd like to get back to discussing the 08' CTS, because that is the topic.
Jan 31, 2007 (10:30 pm)
Top Gear didn't "hate" the CTS.
#508 of 2880 Re: Heh [readerreader]
Jan 31, 2007 (10:59 pm)
You and I must of read the same article. Perhaps plekto, got a alternate copy ???
Feb 01, 2007 (12:24 am)
You have to take the review Clarkson did in a typical British fashion - when he goes off on it for a good chunk of the review noting small things he doesn't like - it's pretty much your or my saying "it stinks".
But they did like how it drove(The V, a whole a lot, actually), to be sure. It just needed a better interior and features. And it was overpriced compared to the competition.
Start watching at 7 minutes He isn't in love with. The Holden Monaro is the same engine for loads less money. We don't get it here... Same speed around the test track in the rain, as well - within half a second. Over and over they say in various places on the site(s) about the CTS that it is cheap inside and lacks the refinement and precision of its European counterparts. "Like a big crude hammer" sums it up exactly.
OTOH... It's a *tad* cheaper than the BMW 5 series, to be sure.
But it does appear that the 2008 fixes the "cheap" factor, so it should be a better comparison. Just... Too bad we don't get the Holden.
A nice review of the one coming to the U.S. this fall. OKay, more like the "one-half" we'll get
#510 of 2880 Re: Cadillac Good Deals [rockylee]
Feb 01, 2007 (5:17 am)
GMID means GM in your driveway. It's a type of discount that employees can give their friends and relatives. Basically, once you receive a GMID certificate number, you call a GM dealer and see if they accept it. If they do, basically go to the lot, pick out your car and you get the supplier discount automatically- no hassle and no haggling involved. Personally, I have used the GMID certificate on 2 GM purchases and it works awesome. Especially when GM dealers were not budging off of MSRP, it's an excellent way to get an excellent deal.
#511 of 2880 rocky
Feb 01, 2007 (6:37 am)
That was a funny post. I agree with your sentiments 100%. I too thought this forum was about the CTS as opposed to "Merc1 airs his grievances against GM". Interestingly enough, you wont find me in the C-class forum reminding MB loves about MB's dismal quality of late. If I dont like the car I don't see any reason to post in a forum about the car. DOes that makes sense to anyone else?
#512 of 2880 Re: Well... [plekto]
Feb 01, 2007 (7:26 am)
1. They tested both the CTS and CTS-V.
--Don't mix up the two; and don't mix up the TV show with the website/magazine. It's a TV show.
2. They have not yet tested the 2008 CTS.
Feb 01, 2007 (11:23 am)
check out the new issue of MT when you can, there is an in depth article about the CTS with many pictures. They are impressed.
#514 of 2880 Re: Cadillac Good Deals [ggesq]
Feb 01, 2007 (11:46 am)
ggesq: Can this certificate be used if you order a vehicle?
#515 of 2880 Re: Cadillac Good Deals [thebug]
Feb 01, 2007 (3:03 pm)
Yes, because I know people that have done it. I never knew what the program was called since I never had any personal experience with it. It's basically someone like my father giving a friend a GM discount. I think it's at GM "supplier" cost though. It's still a good deal and will save ya a buck on hot models like the new CTS.