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#2485 of 2880 Recently purchased an '08 CTS
Aug 02, 2008 (4:49 pm)
AWD, DI, PDQ, Y41, FE2, White Diamond Tricoat/Cashmere, extra wood package (the additional wood truly enhances an already elegant look). Sticker 50,535; supplier discount; was going to pay cash but was happy to oblige GMAC's 60 month - 0% deal once I opened up to a 2008 model (see below).
Fit and finish is first rate, electronics are functional and of high quality; more features than I can count, but they do seem to be fairly intuitive to operate. Bluetooth works very well; On-star is a plus. Seats are very firm, but once you find "your" position, are also supportive and comfortable. The steering is precise and the turning radius is decent for a car of this size. (Of course I'm coming out of an RL; Acura's have the turning radius of a battleship). I love the styling of the car; outside and in, and am now 650 miles into it.
Originally I intended to custom order an '09 because I didn't want the Ultraview Sunroof. Both the salesperson and, later, the dealership manager, sat with me and advised candidly that they'd tried on a number of occasions to order cars w/out the Ultraview Sunroof, but were unsuccessful on builds where the buyer wanted most of the other luxury features. In other words, customers who, like me, essentially wanted PDQ minus the sunroof, weren't seeing their orders filled. This is consistent with earlier posts on this site where people attempted to order a loaded CTS w/o the sunroof and their order simply never got built.
Once I relented on the sunshade, then the existing 08's came into play. It seems the only real difference between the late '08 models and the new '09s is the encased color coordinated antenna housing at the rear of the roof. The '08 antenna is black.
- surprising amount of road noise from underneath the car and wind noise off the mickey-mouse-ear shaped outside mirrors
- (I'm going to struggle for words to describe this one) there is a pressure build up that you sense in your ear at around 40mph. It peaks at 45, then quickly dissipates as you accelerate beyond that. It you hold at roughly 45 (at least on my car), the pressure persists (annoying). It's the same sensation as in my previous car when I would travel at that speed with the rear passenger side widow about halfway down (dog traveling in back seat). Barely cracking either of the front widows would immediately dissipate the pressure. In the Cadillac, the pressure is there despite the fact that all 4 windows are closed. Any explanations? Can anyone put a term to the condition I'm describing?
- Unfortunately for me, I'm finding the ride joltingly harsh. I test drove a demo w/ the salesperson on two different occasions. While the suspension certainly was more stiff than the RL to which I was accustomed, 650 miles of ownership has told me it is FAR MORE rigid - unpleasantly so - than my previous RL and, surprisingly, the 3 series that preceded the Acura. I expected and wanted the CTS's ride and handling to be more rigid than the RL, but it also is noticeably more harsh than the 3 series. Forget about speedbumps and potholes (trunk cargo literally shifts on those occasions), mere dips and wrinkles in the road fully resonate through your being. And I have a FE2. I can't imagine the FE3 version. I'm hoping that I grow accustomed to it, but at the moment, I'm sadly of the opinon that I made a mistake. I chose the loaded CTS primarily over the 4.2 A6, with the M35/45 and 5 series also under consideration (the plenum shield look eliminated the "refreshed" RL from consideration).
The CTS is a wonderful car and I wouldn't discourage anyone from buying one. If I can offer any advice, however, make sure you include parking lot speedbumps and a stretch of road with less than ideal pavement on your test drive itinerary.
Aug 02, 2008 (7:05 pm)
"In the Cadillac, the pressure is there despite the fact that all 4 windows are closed. Any explanations? Can anyone put a term to the condition I'm describing?"
There is a term of physics that describes it, as the air pressure of the moving vehicle as it relates to the motion...mine was just the opposite on my Crown Vic...open just a rear windows and the ear pressure was painful...but opening both windows on the passenger isde, drivers side closed, caused a whirlwind effect inside the car that is quite nice and has quite a cooling effect under 80 degrees...plus, I like the wind feeling without actually having it slam into my face...
Does it go away with your windows closed if you simply turn on the vent like breaking a vacuum, and you can direct the air vents any way you want...
#2487 of 2880 psi ? Re: Recently purchased an '08 CTS [sryn]
Aug 03, 2008 (6:28 am)
"I'm finding the ride joltingly harsh."
What tire pressures are you running?
#2488 of 2880 Re: psi ? Re: Recently purchased an '08 CTS [rayainsw]
Aug 03, 2008 (7:09 am)
Per my onstar report of 5 days ago, 3 of the 4 are at 37psi, the 4th is at 38psi.
P235/50R18 All Season (97V) Michelin.
I'm really not comparing the car to softer riding competitors (Acura and, obviously, Lexus). I don't and didn't expect that level of insulation. But even compared to competitors that handle as well (Audi, Infiniti) and better (BMW 3 & 5), the ride is harsh and frankly disruptive; especially the back end - it bounces particularly hard.
#2489 of 2880 Re: sryn [marsha7]
Aug 03, 2008 (7:12 am)
No, air conditioner has been on at all times. I'm in Texas. What you described w/ your Crown Vic is the same experience I had w/ the RL (described above). Opening either front window even a hair solved the problem. I'm not physicist but guessed that having only the back window open actually created a vacuum effect of sorts. Opening a front window restored air flow and normalized the pressure. I don't understand why it's now happening (to some extent) with all windows closed on the CTS.
#2490 of 2880 Re: psi ? Re: Recently purchased an '08 CTS [sryn]
Aug 03, 2008 (8:23 am)
Per my onstar report of 5 days ago, 3 of the 4 are at 37psi, the 4th is at 38psi
My 07 AWD calls for 30 cold, all the way around. You should be checking them at least monthy. The on star report is worthless as who knows when they did their readout, it could have been while you were going down the road on a hot day. First thing in the morning using your display and the car is either in the garage or shade check them and look at the sticker on the drivers side door post and it will tell you what is needed.
#2491 of 2880 One year later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 03, 2008 (8:23 am)
Just about one year later, The $ 48900 loaded CTS had two leaks in the sunroof making water run into the car though the A frame. The Fuel Pump went the 1st week with 400 mile on the car. Since then all is ok except the hard ride has created more rattles than a NYC Gypsy cab. Im Very disapointed. Craftmanship is still crap. No wonder GM is hurting
#2492 of 2880 Re: Recently purchased an '08 CTS [sryn]
Aug 03, 2008 (11:05 am)
After trying the car out over the weekend, I bought a new 2008 STS on Monday. It's equipped identically to the CTS you bought, even down to the colors. The dealer knocked nearly $10,000 off the MSRP and it wound up a little over $600 less than a similar CTS. They wouldn't deal at all on a CTS.
Anyway, I have not experienced the cabin pressure problem you are having but the ride over RR tracks and road strips is definitely more harsh than my Sable was. The dash readout for the tires says 37 PSI all around which agrees with my pressure gauge. The door sticker calls for 30 PSI all around but the first status E-mail from OnStar that came yesterday recommends 30 PSI in front and 32 PSI in back. I sent an E-mail to Cadillac Contact Us for clarification and I will report back when I get a response. As soon as I find out, I will bleed the pressure down to Specs to see if that helps.
#2493 of 2880 Re: psi ? Re: Recently purchased an '08 CTS [sryn]
Aug 03, 2008 (11:23 am)
"My 07 AWD calls for 30 cold"
37 \ 38 does seem high -
what does the "Tire Loading Information label" show?
Aug 03, 2008 (11:25 am)
"The door sticker calls for 30 PSI all around"
Dropping from 37 \ 38 to 32 or 30
will likely change the ride quite noticeably...