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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 03, 2008 7:13 am) Caddy ( in particular ) seems to have changed what is included in their packages – and what other options are available ( only ) when purchased with certain packages more often than most. And I do not see any logic ( from the customer’s standpoint ) in many of the choices. While I do understand some issues \ implications regarding options such as final drive ratio, the Corvette has long been available with an optional ‘performance’ final drive ratio – and for 2008 one is available again. I see no rational explanation for requiring ( for example – on an STS, when I was looking seriously at buying ) that one select the highest & most expensive option package ( 1SG, on the STS – for something over $8,000, last I remember ) before one could also select the QAF \ Performance Handling package. There is simply no connection here – except a completely artificial one. And – seriously - If I had been able to “cherry pick” exactly & only the options I wanted, and was willing to pay for, on an STS, I’d have almost certainly bought one. In order to configure one with what I wanted, there was $5,000 or more of stuff that I did ** NOT ** want. I do see the advantage, from the standpoint of Dealerships ordering cars for stock, in bundling options together. ( The “Pattern Orders” further address this. ) My recollection of the initial intent when packages began to appear was basically: Order these 4 items & we’ll discount the “Package” – compared to the MSRP of the 4 items individually. Now, I believe it is largely a marketing strategy designed to sell more expensive versions of the product, at larger margins. Since, in order for customers to buy what they really want, they typically must also purchase options they don’t really want, need or even care about. . . The ‘un-bundling’ of the sunroof a while back for the STS gave me hope. That hope is now faded completely. And if I drove regularly to unfamiliar areas ( like our Outside Sales People do ) and \ or at night, I would definitely have a NAV system in my vehicle. In my view - Paper maps are fine, if you have a co-pilot. And I find them useful in deciding what order to use when planning multi-destination routing. Otherwise, I think that a built-in or portable NAV system would pay for itself in time saved very quickly when under those conditions. - Ray Now convinced that GM \ Caddy will never change their paradigm regarding option packages . . .
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I believe you are right, option packages were supposed to be cheaper than individual options. Now they just lump them into packages and make us buy options we don't want and need to get the ones we want. In the good old days, I remember( 70's) that if the manufacturer had it on the shelf you could order it. I am a Mustang fanatic, own a clasic Mustang, and there are numerous documented cases where options that were meant for the T-Bird or other Ford cars found their way onto the Mustang. One case in particular is a Mustang that was ordered with the Landau bars on the rear quarters. |
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There is an adjustable strap, with snap hooks on each end, in the spare tire well. Does anyone know what the strap is intended for? I have not been able to find any reference to it on the placards in the trunk, or in the owners manual. Is it a towing strap? is it to strap something down? What is it for, and how is it intended to be used? I sure would like to know.
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jul 03, 2008 9:27 am) I think when the STS was first put into production, they may have wanted to limit the number of Performance editions so that the STS fuel consumption was mainly based on the 2.73:1 axle ratio. Now that the six speed transmission is standard with a 3.42:1 axle on all models you have a valid point about the performance options being available without a lot of luxury stuff. However, I would not assume that they should be cheap. Cadillac's options packages are not all that much different from what BMW does with packaging of options. Cadillac may have gone too far in packaging everything. I think that packages should save the customer some money, but if the options are not available unbundled, then you really are not saving money. |
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Replying to: bingoman (Jul 03, 2008 11:44 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 04, 2008 6:32 am) 
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I purchased some Velcro Industrial Strength. I removed the clip from my garage door opener, used the Velcro and placed the opener under my steering column. The opener is firmly affixed and out the way. Cosmo |
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Replying to: bingoman (Jul 04, 2008 8:42 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 05, 2008 8:54 am) I am beginning to think it was meant to be used to snug the tire to the back edge of the trunk using two "D" rings attached to either side of the lip of the trunk. It would have been nice if the manual showed this use. The manual also lacks any description of how the cargo net was intended to be used.
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Replying to: cadillacmanaz (Jun 28, 2008 12:34 pm) First I am speaking from reading several articles such as : http://www.milliondollarjourney.com/hybrid-vs-gasoline-vehicle-comparison-are-hy- brids-worth-it.htm If you look at the price of a hybrid vehicle vs. its non hybrid counterpart it will take you more than the time that you will probably own it to actually reap any actual cost savings. The 6 years I refered to was the low end of the spectrum with the Honda civic.
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