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Re: 2008 CTS 4 / GM’s mentality – Garage door opener [bingoman]
by 150mphclub
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Jul 01, 2008 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: bingoman (Jun 30, 2008 9:02 pm)
No problem, obviously we had the same thoughts about wcherrington's complaints.
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Re: 2008 CTS 4 / GM’s mentality – Garage door opener [150mphclub]
by rcantwell
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Jul 01, 2008 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: 150mphclub (Jun 30, 2008 4:32 pm)
Gee Whiz, I wish I were as smart as you. I checked the equipment I ordered and I didn't feel it was worth it to get the luxury level two or the premium luxury collection just to the the opener which came standard on my base luxury level 1 05 model.
Either one of these collections would have made the cost of the car prohibitive and gotten me other options that I did not need. Like the sunroof for instance. Here in Southern Oklahoma, all the sunroof and it's transparent cover would do is heat up the car and the top of your head.
My point, and it is only my opinion, is that a luxury car like the CTS should have the garage opener in the base luxury package. My 05 did, my 08 is a lot more heavily optioned and it doesn't. No, I don't live in a big city like NY or Chicago. Thank God.
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Re: 2008 CTS 4 / GM’s mentality – Garage door opener [rcantwell]
by bingoman
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Jul 01, 2008 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: rcantwell (Jul 01, 2008 10:47 am)
You are entitled to your opinion, but so are the folks at Cadillac, and their opinion was that not enough folks buying the base luxury model wanted a garage door opener (see 150mph above). Thats capitalism for you, the seller gets to choose what he thinks will sell. The buyer only gets to choose whether or not he/she wants to buy. There are a number of things that I wish they had made available on the car but I had to buy it as made available. I have also been known to add after-market items.
As to the sunroof; I spent a week visiting my grandkids in Las Vegas in 110 degree weather. The car was always in the sun. I found that the sunroof, with the semi-transparent curtain, never admitted enough heat to make the car feel uncomfortable, (which I have to admit surprised me). I think the White Diamond paint helped considerably.
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Re: 2008 CTS 4 / GM’s mentality – Garage door opener [bingoman]
by sls002
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Jul 01, 2008 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: bingoman (Jul 01, 2008 11:59 am)
I think rcantwell makes a valid point that including it only with an expensive package is not good. While people without a garage don't care, most people with a garage would want it even if they did not want some of the other options. For 2009 the sunroof appears to be a separate option, but the opener is still only part of a package, although three different packages seem to include it.
I think that Cadillac is playing games with the CTS. When the STS and DTS merge on a new platform, I think that the CTS will replace the STS and perhaps the options will settle into something more sensible. The CTS price tag will probably be higher though.
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Re: 2008 CTS 4 / GM’s mentality – Garage door opener [sls002]
by rcantwell
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Jul 01, 2008 (6:11 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 01, 2008 5:54 pm)
Wow sls, we agree on something. You got my point exactly. While I didn't buy the premiumn luxury package, I did buy the seating package, luxury1 package, competition package, and others. I just think that somewhere along the way Cadillac should have made the opener available without having to spend an extra 6 grand or so on options that I didn't need. The main reason I didn't get the premiumn package, is that flimsy cover or not I don't like sunroofs. With the directions and connections from OnStar, I didn't need the Nav system either. Ohwell, I bought a very small opener at Lowe's and it fits very nicely in the compartment in front of the shifter. I think making the sunroof a seperate option is a smart thing. I have seen a lot of posts on this board and others that people didn't buy the car because of the sunroof and cover.
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09 CTS-V
by rcantwell
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Jul 01, 2008 (6:15 pm)
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Just got my Hemmings Muscle Machines today and in it they say that a stock 09 V with stock tires ran the Nuremburg course in 7:59minutes. This is the first production car to run the course in less than 8 minutes. Up till now only race and heavily modified cars have been able to do it in under 8 minute. They were speculating that the Caddy is putting out somewhere around 550 horsepower. While that is to much car for me on a daily basis , it would be nice to be able to rent one like the old Hertz Shelbys and get the feel of it just once.
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Sunroof
by james104
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Jul 01, 2008 (7:50 pm)
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Sunroofs - love 'em or hate 'em, it is of course a personal decision. Just to throw my 2 cents in, I am usually indifferent about sunroofs. When my cars have them, I use them only occasionally. I admit I was really intrigued by the very large glass area on the '08 CTS even if the whole roof does not open. What was a deal breaker for me was the mesh, flimsy feeling (IMO) cover. I just don't like lots of light in the car sometimes as I am personally distracted by it (again, my own reality). I do not understand why there cannot be an opaque cover of some sort.
I figured by ordering my '09 CTS without the sunroof I was saving some $ and gaining some rear seat headroom. Eases the pain somewhat!
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Re: 09 CTS-V [rcantwell]
by rcantwell
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Jul 02, 2008 (4:06 am)
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Replying to: rcantwell (Jul 01, 2008 6:15 pm)
Correction to my post. I re-read the article, and the 09 CTS-V is the first production SEDAN to do the Nuremberg course in under 8 minutes.
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Re: 2008 CTS 4 / GM’s mentality – Garage door opener [rcantwell]
by sls002
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Jul 02, 2008 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: rcantwell (Jul 01, 2008 6:11 pm)
For 2009 the seating package comes with the opener. The seating package comes with other packages, but does not require the higher end package but does require the luxury package. In 2008 the seating package was available without other packages I think. While I am not fond of sunroofs either, when the car is hot from sitting in the sun, opening the windows and sunroof will speedup getting the hot air out of the car. The sunroof in my SRX has a light cover too, but I don't notice any heat coming through, but it is heavily tinted. I have never talked to onstar for directions with my last vehicle. I plan to keep the basic onstar safe&sound (or whatever it is) plan.
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Re: 2008 CTS 4 / GM’s mentality – Garage door opener [sls002]
by rcantwell
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Jul 02, 2008 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 02, 2008 8:14 am)
That makes sense, too bad it didn't happen in 08. Guess they couldn't get everything right the first year. The directions and connections plan from OnStar is great. Just call them give them the address and they download turn by turn directions to the car. On my CTS a asic map appears on the radio screen when approching a turn and they give audible directions well before each turn. I liked it so much that I upgraded the OnStar in my 07 Avalanche to the direction and connections plan also.Every time I have used it it has taken me right to my destination.
I have friend who also has an 08 CTS with navigation. He couldn't figure out the nav system and just called OnStar for directions.
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