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Cadillac CTS-V, Cadillac CTS, Sedan
Apr 21, 2008 (6:57 pm)
I just spoke with my saleslady this afternoon and was told that dealers had only two more days to order 2008 CTS's. After that they will be ordering 2009 cars. Blue tooth will be available and there are some color changes, but nothing else appears to be changed.
I had hoped for the addition of a rear view camera to be available with navigation, and possibly a change to the sun roof screen, also the possibility of power folding mirrors and automatic cruise control, but it appears that they are not to be for this year.
#2271 of 2880 Re: 2009 CTS [bingoman]
Apr 22, 2008 (3:30 pm)
I doubt that any dealer knew about specifications or materials changes ahead of next year model announcement; it’s a possibility that the company might increase the engine horsepower, or the quality or the intensity of the sunroof screen without a change in 2009 ordering guide. It’s also a possibility that Cadillac don’t want to announce all 2009 improvement at this point so they can sell their 2008 existing and coming stocks without deep discount. As for automatic cruise I would rather have an infra-red camera for night vision than the “Adaptive Cruise Control” which has been proven not very reliable yet in luxury cars that have it.
I had to drive about 35 miles away from where I live to see different Cadillac Dealer. The salesman was very helpful and told me that he thinks he might locate a CTS built with PDQ (luxury collection) without the sunroof, but I doubt it. He also said that I wasn’t the first one to complaint from the sunroof screen and the Cadillac representative is aware of the problem; adding “knowing Cadillac, from past experience, they don’t react as fast as they should”. He also assured me that Blue Tooth will be no problem in future CTS.
I have sunroof in my Lexus along with every car I’ve owned/leased for the last 15 years; never had problem with sunroof and never complaint from it; matter of fact I love it. I just don’t understand what Cadillac had in mind when they designed a controversial sunroof that can not properly cover it.
In September 2007, I went with my dad to buy his new 08 CTS, and that was suppose to be his fifth or sixth Cadillac, he ends up buying a Mercedes E350 just because of the translucent sunshade; it’s simply not acceptable.
#2272 of 2880 Re: 2009 CTS [genuisity]
Apr 22, 2008 (4:16 pm)
The dealers have already been issued the specs and color samples for the 2009's. They are taking orders for the '09's.
As to my speculations as to the options I hoped would be added for '09, they were based on some observations and my own personal hopes. I held out buying an '08 based on those hopes and observations.
As to the backup camera, one of the engineers on the Caddy blog said I should 'stay tuned' when I asked about the camera, but it was not to be. The hope for power folding mirrors was based on the presence of an extra switch on the mirror control panel below the mirror switch in the photo of the black interior in the '08 brochure. I thought Cadillac would respond to the complaints of the translucent sun roof shade but they have not. The other items where pure speculation based on options on other similar priced cars.
I hope your father enjoys his Mercedes, but I will stick with the CTS.
#2273 of 2880 Re: Response to Ims2 [sryn]
Apr 23, 2008 (2:51 am)
From what I understand the hands-free capability is linked to onstar. The salesman says that verizon wireless users will get a new "free" phone number that automatically forwards to your mobile phone. But nonverizon users may have to pay for the new number/account. And of course onstar isn't free for more than 1 year. I haven't confirmed this information.
Bluetooth is pretty standard is most luxury cars and some nonluxury cars. It is a wireless radio technology that allows your mobile (if it has bluetooth built in- most recent phones do) to communicate with your car's bluetooth system. A car microphone picks up your voice and transmits it to your mobile. People speaking with you are routed through your car speakers. The tech is not perfect- pairing is sometimes problematic, sometimes mobile's contact will not be downloaded by car's bluetooth. But when it works, it is really good and removes the need for a bluetooth headphone or earbud. I don't use a bluetooth headphone but a good car system should be clearer and eliminate the need to fumble around for the earbud.
Hope this helps.
I hope the cts offers bluetooth. I am still deciding on my next car when my Inifini m35x lease is up.
#2274 of 2880 Re: Response to Ims2 [ewl88]
Apr 23, 2008 (8:53 am)
Adding my 2 cents, I'm sure Cadillac has a sound reason for not including Bluetooth in this vehicle, but it's a clear competitive disadvantage. If an owner utilizes Verizon as their cellular provider the work around is fairly effective. Verizon will set up a number to be linked to OnStar which will utilize the same bucket of minutes. This works for outbound calls but inbound callers must dial the OnStar versus cell phone number. Call forwarding from your cell to the car does not cure this problem as double minutes are utilized. If the car owner does not utilize Verizon, then essentially you are paying for an extra phone line.
Add-on Bluetooth kits are available but I'm not a fan of customizing a brand new vehicle. Alternatively, buy a $100 Bluetooth earpiece and live with the inconvenience.
(That being said, I love my CTS and will live without Bluetooth for now.)
#2275 of 2880 2008 CTS fair price
Apr 27, 2008 (7:11 am)
A Cadillac dealer, about 35 miles away from home, is trying to locate a CTS with all options, without a roof, emailed me saying that he might have one for me in few days.
According to Edmunds.com the average loaded CTS is sold about $1,000 above invoice, and according to Costco their negotiated prices should be better than the average price at Edmunds.
My question is how much did you pay "ladies and gentlemen" above invoice? Excluding incentive, GM card pay back, Employee/Supplier discount…etc.
Your input is really appreciated
#2276 of 2880 2008 CTS Rear Visibility
Apr 27, 2008 (9:45 am)
My mother wants to buy a new car to replace our 10 year old Buick Century. Currently, I do all the driving for her. She would like another Buick. I asked our local Buick dealer to get a LaCrosse Super for me to test drive. I was told NO way, wait for the 2010 model. Whatever. Their loss, my gain.
I really like the 2008 CTS, especially the RED color. I have sat in one but did not drive it due to the tiny rear window. I am only 5'6" tall and my mother is much shorter than I am. When I drive, I never use the outside mirrors. I turn and check to my left or right. Will the design of the rear of the CTS give me any visibility to the left or right when I turn to look or will the headrests and rear pillars block my view?? If there's no visibility to the rear, I'll forget the CTS and move on.
All comments appreciated. We really need new wheels and I want a sporty type vehicle. The CTS is about the only American car that I would consider at this time. Thanks to all.
Apr 28, 2008 (5:50 pm)
Why would you have to wait for the 2010 LaCross Super model, which is TWO model years away???...
#2278 of 2880 Re: horns1976 [marsha7]
Apr 29, 2008 (4:51 am)
Yeah, that kind of perplexes me too--my GM dealer has had one on the lot for at least three months with no takers. Why would a dealer not want to sell you a car NOW? Surely they don't expect you to wait two years?
#2279 of 2880 Re: horns1976 [bryan]
Apr 29, 2008 (5:05 am)
I agree with bryan and marsha's comments. The dealer didn't want a Super on his lot if I didn't buy it. That's the bottom line. The head honcho said the new LaCrosse will be out in Oct. 2008. I say no way.
I still plan to check out the 2008 CTS further. I really like the car and it has received positive reviews. One knock on the CTS is "rear visibility." I guess I'll see for myself if I drive the vehicle.