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#2264 of 2757 Exert from 09 CTS Ordering Guide: by genuisity Apr 15, 2008 (9:04 am)
No deletions allowed to Equipment Groups.   Equipment Groups: PDQ CTS Premium Collection, includes: (Y40) Luxury Level One Package, (Y41) Luxury Level Two Package, (Y42) 18" (45.7 cm) All-Season Tire Performance Package, (Y44) Seating Package, (UAV) audio system with navigation, (C3U) Ultra View sunroof, (B19) Wood Trim Package, (B20) Wood Trim Package and (P63) 18" x 8" (45.7 cm x20.3 cm) aluminum wheels with high-polished finish   This is what I want with the exception of the cheesecloth sunroof cover. But GM message is, IF YOU DON’T LIKE TO BAKE YOUR HEAD in sunny California, Nevada, Florida….etc, GO TAKE A HIKE.   I was hoping that in 2009 CTS GM will either add a traditional Sunroof, or allow their best paying customers to buy a car without the undesirable sunroof design. It’s very bad decision from GM.   GM! You lost it, and you’re about to lose me too, along with the high percentage of your big spending customers who accept nothing but every option you offer, and they also wish to have their head fully covered from the sun when they don’t need it.. Replies to this message: 150mphclub (Apr 16, 2008 5:20 am)
#2265 of 2757 Re: Response to Ims2 [caddygrl] by sryn Apr 15, 2008 (12:18 pm)
Replying to: caddygrl (Apr 12, 2008 2:38 pm) Can you explain the difference between the bluetooth capability that you indicate will be available in post-April models and the hands-free capability that is currently offered? An acquaintance previously explained to me that while CTS's didn't offer bluetooth, they could be synced with an owner's current cell-phone service to accomodate hands-free communication. Is that true and, if so, how is bluetooth fundamentally different?   Thanks in advance. Replies to this message: ewl88 (Apr 23, 2008 2:51 am) rspruitt (Apr 23, 2008 8:53 am)
#2266 of 2757 Re: 5 questions for 2008 CTS owners [ral1960] by lms2 Apr 15, 2008 (7:15 pm)
Replying to: ral1960 (Apr 14, 2008 8:29 pm) If I thought it would do any good, I'd complain, but I think GM has been doing things that way for about a million years. Someone must think it's useful.   I ended up ordering the CTS today. The legroom tightness in the back of the g35x was a deciding factor, although it seems like it had more headroom back there than the CTS (even without the sunroof in the CTS).   LMS
#2267 of 2757 Re: Exert from 09 CTS Ordering Guide: [genuisity] by 150mphclub Apr 16, 2008 (5:20 am)
Replying to: genuisity (Apr 15, 2008 9:04 am) It is not only GM that has the "take it or lump it" attitude. In September of 05, I special ordered a Mercedes without the sunroof (Sunroof was a $1700 option). Five months later it was still not on their production schedule, so I cancelled.   I challenge you (anyone) to try to buy an Acura, Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Lexus, Mercedes or other non-american luxury car without a sunroof.   The CTS I ordered (without sunroof) on 2/29/08 has not been built yet, but I am clinging to the hope that GM will build it.
#2268 of 2757 sunroof \ option groups by rayainsw Apr 16, 2008 (5:38 am)
I was somewhat encouraged when I read this - posted regarding the 2009 STS, not CTS, but still:   "Changes      Repackaging created (implemented 4th quarter of 2008 model year) "   I have not seen an explanation of exactly what that means - but perhaps GM \ Caddy has heard some of us complain... - Ray Did not buy a V8 STS largely due to option packages & individual option availability issues...
#2269 of 2757 NAV aftermarket software by cptsully Apr 21, 2008 (12:32 pm)
Hello All-   One of the things I DON'T like about my CTS Nav system is the fact that while you're driving, and hit "nearby POI's", it gives you a very limited number, and you can't scroll down too far. However, once you stop, it offers POI's out the wazoo.   I remember reading a post that had a link to aftermarket software you can install that would allow you to manipulate nav system and info while the car is moving. If I recall, it also lets you watch DVD's while driving, (though I have no intention of doing that.) Does anybody have that link? Anybody try that software? Do you think installing it voids any warranties as well?   Thanks!
#2270 of 2757 2009 CTS by bingoman Apr 21, 2008 (6:57 pm)
I just spoke with my saleslady this afternoon and was told that dealers had only two more days to order 2008 CTS's. After that they will be ordering 2009 cars. Blue tooth will be available and there are some color changes, but nothing else appears to be changed.   I had hoped for the addition of a rear view camera to be available with navigation, and possibly a change to the sun roof screen, also the possibility of power folding mirrors and automatic cruise control, but it appears that they are not to be for this year. Replies to this message: genuisity (Apr 22, 2008 3:30 pm) bingoman (Apr 22, 2008 4:16 pm) rayainsw (May 02, 2008 3:18 pm)
#2271 of 2757 Re: 2009 CTS [bingoman] by genuisity Apr 22, 2008 (3:30 pm)
Replying to: bingoman (Apr 21, 2008 6:57 pm) I doubt that any dealer knew about specifications or materials changes ahead of next year model announcement; it’s a possibility that the company might increase the engine horsepower, or the quality or the intensity of the sunroof screen without a change in 2009 ordering guide. It’s also a possibility that Cadillac don’t want to announce all 2009 improvement at this point so they can sell their 2008 existing and coming stocks without deep discount. As for automatic cruise I would rather have an infra-red camera for night vision than the “Adaptive Cruise Control” which has been proven not very reliable yet in luxury cars that have it.    I had to drive about 35 miles away from where I live to see different Cadillac Dealer. The salesman was very helpful and told me that he thinks he might locate a CTS built with PDQ (luxury collection) without the sunroof, but I doubt it. He also said that I wasn’t the first one to complaint from the sunroof screen and the Cadillac representative is aware of the problem; adding “knowing Cadillac, from past experience, they don’t react as fast as they should”. He also assured me that Blue Tooth will be no problem in future CTS.   I have sunroof in my Lexus along with every car I’ve owned/leased for the last 15 years; never had problem with sunroof and never complaint from it; matter of fact I love it. I just don’t understand what Cadillac had in mind when they designed a controversial sunroof that can not properly cover it.   In September 2007, I went with my dad to buy his new 08 CTS, and that was suppose to be his fifth or sixth Cadillac, he ends up buying a Mercedes E350 just because of the translucent sunshade; it’s simply not acceptable. Replies to this message: bingoman (Apr 22, 2008 4:16 pm)
#2272 of 2757 Re: 2009 CTS [genuisity] by bingoman Apr 22, 2008 (4:16 pm)
Replying to: genuisity (Apr 22, 2008 3:30 pm) The dealers have already been issued the specs and color samples for the 2009's. They are taking orders for the '09's.   As to my speculations as to the options I hoped would be added for '09, they were based on some observations and my own personal hopes. I held out buying an '08 based on those hopes and observations.   As to the backup camera, one of the engineers on the Caddy blog said I should 'stay tuned' when I asked about the camera, but it was not to be. The hope for power folding mirrors was based on the presence of an extra switch on the mirror control panel below the mirror switch in the photo of the black interior in the '08 brochure. I thought Cadillac would respond to the complaints of the translucent sun roof shade but they have not. The other items where pure speculation based on options on other similar priced cars.   I hope your father enjoys his Mercedes, but I will stick with the CTS.
#2273 of 2757 Re: Response to Ims2 [sryn] by ewl88 Apr 23, 2008 (2:51 am)
Replying to: sryn (Apr 15, 2008 12:18 pm) From what I understand the hands-free capability is linked to onstar. The salesman says that verizon wireless users will get a new "free" phone number that automatically forwards to your mobile phone. But nonverizon users may have to pay for the new number/account. And of course onstar isn't free for more than 1 year. I haven't confirmed this information.   Bluetooth is pretty standard is most luxury cars and some nonluxury cars. It is a wireless radio technology that allows your mobile (if it has bluetooth built in- most recent phones do) to communicate with your car's bluetooth system. A car microphone picks up your voice and transmits it to your mobile. People speaking with you are routed through your car speakers. The tech is not perfect- pairing is sometimes problematic, sometimes mobile's contact will not be downloaded by car's bluetooth. But when it works, it is really good and removes the need for a bluetooth headphone or earbud. I don't use a bluetooth headphone but a good car system should be clearer and eliminate the need to fumble around for the earbud.   Hope this helps.    I hope the cts offers bluetooth. I am still deciding on my next car when my Inifini m35x lease is up. Replies to this message: rspruitt (Apr 23, 2008 8:53 am)

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