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Re: I finally got it [tntmyth] by letsgomets
Feb 04, 2008 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: tntmyth (Feb 03, 2008 2:48 pm)

In September I took delivery of an AWD, DI, all the toys. It has approx 5.5k miles and no problems, rattles, squeaks, etc. - which is much more than I can say about my last 3 Audis....
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Re: I finally got it [letsgomets] by wacojohnny
Feb 04, 2008 (12:43 pm)
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Replying to: letsgomets (Feb 04, 2008 11:52 am)

I have my CTS fully loaded AWD,DI,all the options and not a hint of anything wrong,it,s got about 2800 miles on it and running perfect.I love the car,I picked it up on Nov 13th.If you are thinking of getting one don,t worry its a great car.Driving over the streets of NYC,and no rattles sqeaks its amazing.
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About my CTS by j4mst
Feb 04, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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Ordered my CTS Oct 19th 08 car was delivered Jan 04 08 3.6 SFI, PDQ, Auto
White Diamond W/ spare tire. I have been watching this forum since before my
purchase. I would like to respond to some of the postings by saying after 50 +
years of auto purchasing it is not uncommon to have some minor or major
problems with a first year production. However after looking at the competition
I do not find any other vehicle that can compare to the CTS '08 the ergonomics
are far superior to its closet competitor,performance is on par with the best. It
remains Cadillac all the way. It most certinaly is not a European Sports car it is
however one of the most adept at finding the middle of the performance road to
Sport and Luxury. I have 1200 miles no problems other than a heated seat function
problem that is being taken care of by the dealer who is replacing my fuel used to
come in for service. The only other thing I can say is WOW Great
car!!!!
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rcantwell's woes by sevenfeet0
Feb 04, 2008 (3:58 pm)
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I've been lurking watching the events of this unfold. I think all of us here really hope that your dealership and Cadillac get to some resolution everyone can agree to. One thing for sure is that issues like this aren't limited to Cadillac or GM. My mother had been driving Lexus ES cars for some time now and she had purchased the 2007 model last year. That car was an absolutely nightmare of gremlins...mostly resulting in the car refusing to start in her own garage. After being towed to the Lexus dealership five times and have no luck with the service solutions, the dealership made arrangements to get her into another vehicle. By this time the 2008s had shown up, and that's what she moved into. No problems with the current car.
 
Usually manufacturers have policies about how to handle the most serious issues that try to balance customer satisfaction with cost effectiveness. After all, drop shipping a 3.6L DI engine for your car isn't exactly a walk in the park. What helps in the process is not just being persistant (and not a jerk at the same time), but also having a dealership willing to go to bat for you. There are two Caddy dealerships in my town. The one I go to treats me like gold, regardless of why I'm there. They all my name (and all their regular customers names), from the receptionist to the owner, who always makes it a point to stop what he's doing and say hi to me. They remember what's going on in my life and ask about my family. They never try to spend their time selling me a car....they know when I'm ready, I'll come to them. And their service managers are all the same people for the last fifteen+ years I've been there. If there is an issue with my car, I know they will tell me the truth and not just try to do what's profitable. I have no doubt that they would go to bat for me with GM if something like what you're going through happened to me.
 
Bottom line is that if you feel your dealership isn't serving you well, let them know and look for others. If it's GM, make sure the dealership is pulling every string they can. The last thing they want is the loss of a customer, much less to a competitor. When that happens, odds are the customer is gone for good.
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Re: rcantwell's woes [sevenfeet0] by rcantwell
Feb 04, 2008 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: sevenfeet0 (Feb 04, 2008 3:58 pm)

Still no news. Mine is actually the 3.6VVT engine, so you would think it would be more reliable. Talked to the service manager this afternoon. Still no word from the Cadillac rep on what is going to happen. Evidently with GM the area rep has the say so on major things. Service manager says they are going to have to replace the engine, they know what is wrong with it ( water in 2 cylinders,) but can't see a way that it is getting there. Head gasket was not blown, head isn't cracked, the only thing they can come up with is that block has a porous casting, letting the water in. Says he hopes to know someting tomorrow, but that is what he said about today also. If he gets the ok to replace the engine he thinks he can have one here early next week, and the car back to us maybe by the end of the week. If that time frame holds, that means the car would have been in the shop 31 days since the first of the year. Getting me closer to the 45 day lemon law all the time. I do feel like the service manager is trying to do what is right. It all depends on the Cadillac rep, and he is the one who refused to replace the motor earlier. Service manager says that is their only choice now, but I will feel a lot better when the decision has been made. Actually I would feel a lot better if they would just give me another car, but that ain't going to happen.
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Re: I finally got it [jharold] by johnstingray
Feb 04, 2008 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: jharold (Feb 03, 2008 1:21 pm)

Wow, that seems like a pretty quick delivery time. I ordered my CTS November 24 I was told 6-8 weeks. I call my dealer weekly and am being told they don't have a build date yet. I ordered mine Black Raven in color with the base engine, RWD, auto, Luxury Collection, both wood packages and no sunroof. Every CTS I've ever seen has a sunroof and I was also told by another owner there may be an availability problem with the wood package for the steering wheel and gearshift. Maybe those items are causing the delay. With our winter in the east central US so far I think I should have gotten AWD too.
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Re: I finally got it [johnstingray] by rcantwell
Feb 05, 2008 (4:53 am)
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Replying to: johnstingray (Feb 04, 2008 8:38 pm)

Sounds like something is wrong. Maybe your dealer doesn't have an allocation for a CTS and that is what is keeping it from being picked up. I ordered my in mid September and it was delivered Oct 30th. I know the wood wheel and gearshift were orginally constrained, but I thought they got that taken care of. I would go back and talk to whoever takes care of special orders at the dealrship. They can find out why it hasn't been picked up for a build yet. Also, if it hasn't been picked up for building yet, they can probably add the AWD to the car. I know we changed the option package on ours just before it was scheduled for build. Anyway something is definetly wrong either with the factory or your dealer. 2 and a half months and no build date yet is nnot right.
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Re: rcantwell's woes [sevenfeet0] by rcantwell
Feb 05, 2008 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: sevenfeet0 (Feb 04, 2008 3:58 pm)

Update 1-5-08,service manager just called, Cadillac finally approved a new engine. Should have it installed and the Cadillac back to us by the end of next week, maybe a little sooner depending on where the engine had to come from. A little happier about the situation now, it only took Caddy two weeks to decide to do what they should have done oirginally.
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Re: I finally got it [johnstingray] by jharold
Feb 05, 2008 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: johnstingray (Feb 04, 2008 8:38 pm)

You must have a dealer problem.... I originally ordered a CTS November 28th and it was set to be delivered December 28th. The dealer screwed up the order so I got my deposit back and went to another dealer the next day December 29th and ordered another CTS. I took deleviery of that car on Saturday February 2nd. You may need to check with another dealer
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Back from the dealer by briantucson
Feb 05, 2008 (5:37 pm)
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I ordered my CTS and picked it up on 28 Dec.
 
Last Friday I went to start the vehicle and it didn't turn over (no crank).
 
I used Onstar which forwarded me to Cadillac Roadside Assistance (CRA). CRA asked me for a phone number, to which I said "I've got Onstar". They said "We don't have access to that, do you have a cell phone?" It seems that GM doesn't quite have the whole thing planned out perfectly yet.
 
Anyway, after I finished with CRA, I gave the CTS yet another try, and this time it fired up. I drove home with the groceries, and as I walked in the door, the home phone rang. It was CRA telling me about the tow vehicle that was en route. I explained that after unloading the perishables I intended on dropping off the car, but thanks.
 
The dealer gave me an '08 CTS loaner, which was nice. It was pretty basic in terms of equipment, as expected. I hadn't driven the base suspension in awhile, and there is a marked difference between it and the FE3. Surprising, even. Pretty Soft. Also, since it was a rental, I didn't feel the need to spare the RPM. The base engine (non DI) really does have pretty decent push.
 
I picked up my car today. It was all tied to an insufficiently grounded cable.
 
Here's the good news: There was a service bulletin on it. This alone speaks volumes about Quality.
 
It wasn't where the Dealer Tech's said "Well, we looked at it and it turns out that the assembler must've been drunk".
 
It was evidence of statiscal based, process-controlled manufactured environment. Their manufacturing engineers knew (unfortunately, after the fact) that a subset of their vehicles didn't pass mustard due to a process in their manufacturing flow. But they've updated their manufacturing process to address shortfalls.
 
I've accepted that purchaseing a vehicle very early in the manufacturing flow means you're more suspect to some problems. But after 6 weeks, and 1K miles, this was it. Some would not accept this, but I loved the car and had to have one.
 
Hats off to GM. Even with the slight inconvenience, it's been worth it, and I love the ride.

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