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I've been a subscriber of Car & Driver for about 20 years but will not renew my subscription after this year. The reason? I'm fed up with their complete BMW/German bias. C&D believes that if you're a car enthusiast then you want a race car for the street. I think we all realize this is not the case. A great sport sedan/coupe is a combination of style, luxury, technology, handling and performance. The fact that a car can lap Nurburgring or Laguna Seca faster and quicker than any other car in it's class doesn't make it the optimal car for a car enthusiast's daily driver. I haven't owned an American car since 1999 and swore I would never own another after that awful Jeep Grand Cherokee, but since the introduction of the CTS I've slowly changed my mind. The 08 CTS is everything I had hoped it would be, correcting all of the problems of the previous models. I would have already put my order in for an 08 CTS if it weren't for the fact that Cadillac will be building a coupe, hopefully in 08 as an 09. |
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Replying to: dmathews3 (Dec 01, 2007 6:28 pm) Thesis: The STS is boring 1. The exterior styling is bland. The original '05 STS was supposed to be introduced in '04 but got held back because Bob Lutz thought the styling wasn't sophisticated enough. I don't know what that car looked like because the car that went to production didn't light many eyes afire. Considering that the '02 'Slade, the '03 CTS, the '04 XLR and the '04 SRX were all considered to be "out there" styling exercises (some succeeded, some sort-of succeeded). The '05 STS looked to be to be an unfinished project. The lines were too toned down from the other A&S efforts. The sides were too slad sided without any emotion lines to break up the wide expanses of nothing. The rear clip and spoiler looked completely unfinished and the spoiler didn't look integrated at all. I spent some time in my mind trying to defend it when it first was released, but the more I looked at it, the more I couldn't defend it. 2. The interior was a better effort but it falls because Cadillac compromised it with poor quality plastics. All you have to do is put your hand on top of the '08 CTS's dash and feel the soft feel of the leatherette compared to the hard plastics of the STS to know that the CTS's game got updated from what had been done three years previous. It's not that the STS's interior is bad...far from it. But once you get back the center stack that was pretty well done, the rest of it is lacking, I'm sorry to say. Keep in mind, I'm the same guy who told my Caddy dealer back in '03 that I thought my new CTS's interior wasn't enough for the class (and the SRX's original CTS-based interior was a joke for the class). 3. The seats are boring. The STS's seats are pretty much the same units in the CTS and SRX. Outside of some styling differences, the seats showed no improvement from the other vehicles...again, just trying to put more of the same across the product line. The STS-V did change some of my pain points, but the main problems of the car remain. The '08 STS does spice up the front clip with the new family grill, but I think the CTS is a better interpretation of that effort. The side vents on the new STS just look slapped on...not an integrated part of the design as the CTS or even the '07 Slade. Given the styling effort on the CTS, I am hopeful on the replacement for the STS/DTS since I was getting a little worried after the STS came out. |
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| Does the 2008 CTS have it? And why is the more powerful engine only available with the auto tranny? | |
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Replying to: 150mphclub (Nov 30, 2007 10:06 am) |
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Replying to: mediapusher (Dec 02, 2007 11:53 pm) The manual tranny is available with either the base or DI engine. Check your dealer for availability since most dealers these days special order the manual transmission for customers who specifically want it.
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Replying to: vic10 (Nov 30, 2007 6:27 pm)  The 300 and Charger are old school in that their dashboards are fairly flat, which allows for more overall knee room. Most cars used to have dashboards like this. The CTS is like many newer vehicles with swoopy curved cockpit inspired designs (or at least what we fantasize what a cockpit is supposed to look like). I usually hate designs like this since it makes it even less likely I can fit in a car like this. The CTS is the rare exception of cars in this class that can handle my legs....a feature shared with the Infiniti M and the Acura RL. Everybody else is a no-go. I would disagree on the "door-thunk" noise...not that it couldn't be better...I think it could be. But I've owned a '76 Deville and a '80 Deville and those doors sounded nothing like modern cars. You're not ever going to get the torque of a Hemi V8 until Caddy puts a V8 Northstar in this car. Wait a year or two and it will happen...and a V-series car is a certainty next year anyway. No flash to pass? That's the first time I've heard that complaint...even the last CTS had that feature. Weird. Finally about the pimped up Vogue Tyres (r) and pinstriping.....Cadillac as a division of GM is going to have to get firm with the dealers on crap like this. Coming back from the airport this weekend I saw a brand new red '08 CTS in the airport parking lot...and then I took a doubletake to see a saddle-colored fake convertible coach roof stuck to the top of it. It's like somebody wearing a obvious bad toupee, only much worse. In the last 5 years, I think I only saw 2 CTS's that were ever inflicted by this kind of aftermarket travesty, and now just 2+ months out the gate and I see my first '08 CTS to get the '79 Caddy Phaeton treatment (yes this was a real factory car from Cadillac, look it up!) |
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Replying to: sevenfeet0 (Dec 03, 2007 8:20 am)
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| Have about 3,000 miles on my new CTS now and have noticed a ticking noise which is more pronounced than when I first started driving the car. It comes from the dash and is probably related to one of the guages as it parallels engine acceleration (neutral or in gear). Does anyone else have this same noise? Trying to get some data before visiting the dealer. Thanks in advance. | |
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Replying to: jdavis12 (Dec 03, 2007 8:44 am) |
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Replying to: jdavis12 (Dec 03, 2007 8:44 am) thebug... |
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