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Re: website [1487] by louiswei
Sep 28, 2007 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: 1487 (Sep 28, 2007 11:35 am)

For the sunroof. What troubles me is not just that it couldn't cover the sunlight 100% but it's also that it looks cheap and the most important, it feels cheap. I'll tolerate this kind of design in a Scion tC but definitely not in a $40K+ luxury sedan. Cadillac should come up with a solution before more buyers are driven away due to this issue.
 
Other than that it's a solid effort from Cadillac.
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Re: Well. . . [1487] by cdnpinhead
Sep 28, 2007 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: 1487 (Sep 28, 2007 11:30 am)

Yes, I've read (& certainly heard about) the reviews.
 
The car is good, but it's not the second coming. Another GM fanboy made a big splash in all the CTS-related boards with "what was coming" a year or so ago. He's no longer to be heard from. Why? He still posts here. My post was directed at him & those like him. Talking up a car that doesn't exist is an easier chore than defending one that does.
 
The people I want to hear from are those who have posted on these boards for years (and there are several) who drive this class of car. You have an excellent advocate in Sevenfeet, and several other regulars have said complimentary things about the CTS. Others haven't. This is useful input to me.
 
The car rags praise anything to the sky that they think might result in increased ad revenue. They all thought the Infiniti M walked on water, but the market over the past few years tends to say otherwise.
 
It'll be instructive to see how the CTS does in the market. I think quite well, since there's a huge "buy American" group out there, and the car appears to be at least OK. Heavy & (overly, IMHO) flashy, but OK.
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Re: Pricing for PDW option group [thebug] by avatards
Sep 28, 2007 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: thebug (Sep 27, 2007 12:57 pm)

Note that PDR is not included in PDW. PDR is just a prerequisite for PDW. Options included in PDW are Y41 and Y40 which sum up to $3025 if ordered separately before Y41 became unavailable as a stand-alone collection, or $2875 when ordered with PDR. I believe the last figure is the closest prediction therefore.
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Re: Well. . . [cdnpinhead] by bingoman
Sep 28, 2007 (8:55 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 28, 2007 12:29 pm)

As the saying goes "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". What is flashy to you may be 'impressive' to someone else.
 
As to the car rags, I think that what is important to the magazine car jockey's is not what is important to the average car buyer. Most want an automatic transmission, not a manual. Most are not looking for sub 6 second 0-60 mph. Most car buyers are not writing to this forum.
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Re: Well. . . [cdnpinhead] by sevenfeet0
Sep 28, 2007 (9:28 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 28, 2007 12:29 pm)

I never thought I'd be considered to be an "advocate" but I guess I've posted here enough to earn that title (for better or worse...you often end up coming off as a paid schill to some).
 
I've never tried to hide my own motivations. I do want Cadillac and GM to succeed and I've had more than a passing interest in the brand, having owned four Caddies in the last 20 years. It probably began with my family who owned them when I was a kid. My cousin's family drove Mercedes since the '60s. What does he drive? An E-class.
 
Frankly, I was looking to not buy another one in '03 when the CTS came along. It looked different than everything else, drove like no Caddy I'd ever owned, and I could afford one. Turns out it was the best car I ever owned (a sentiment shared by my wife). We traded it for an SRX when we got kids....very sorry to see that car go.
 
So when the '08 CTS finally came to market, was I interested? You bet. Is it the only thing out there competing for my hard earned dollar? Nope. The number of vehicles in this space are growing and the quality of them have skyrocketed in the last several years. Because of my size, I have different needs than most of the rest of you, so I don't expect any of you to use the exact same criteria I use to buy a car.
 
My short list these days are still the '08 CTS, the Infiniti M35 and the Acura RL. Why? I fit in them! The BMW 535i, Mercedes E350 and others just don't work for me. I wish they did but they don't. Not everyone makes things for the last 1/2 or 1% of the population in terms of height (nor do I expect them to).
 
The CTS interests me because I had a good experience with the last one. I agree, the car is a bit flashy, but so have most Cadillacs over the last 80 years...no big change there. I agree it's too heavy...hopefully something can be done about that over time. And I probably would have not brought a perforated sunscreen to market (although it's hardly the dealkiller in my book...I rarely closed the screen on my old CTS). I don't agree that the screen is "cheap". It's the solution to an engineering problem when you make a sunroof that big. Somehow I would suspect that screen (and the roller and motor assembly) cost a lot more than a plastic (or cardboard) sunscreen covered with the roof liner found in most vehicles.
 
It's a nice car...and I agree, best Caddy since the '50's (with the possible exception of the '67 Eldorado). Is it all things to all buyers? No product is. But I think it's more than good enough to find an audience.
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CTS coupe and wagon in 2009 by knotem
Sep 29, 2007 (6:35 am)
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GM officially announced that they'll build coupe and wagon:
"-- Lansing/Grand River: Cadillac CTS, STS and SRX through 2009; Cadillac CTS wagon and CTS coupe in 2009; Two new rear-wheel-drive large cars in 2011."
 
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8RUMI3G1.htm
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Re: CTS coupe and wagon in 2009 [knotem] by texases
Sep 29, 2007 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: knotem (Sep 29, 2007 6:35 am)

Wonder if the CTS wagon replaces the slow-selling SRX?
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Re: Pricing for PDW option group [avatards] by thebug
Sep 29, 2007 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: avatards (Sep 28, 2007 6:03 pm)

avatards - I have already included the price of Y40 at $850 and Y41 at $2025 in my total cost. My question is as a package has the price changed? Generally, if grouped in a package the price is a little (in some cases a lot) less. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the two included items in PDR, Y42 and Y44 alone are more than the total of PDR. So it would be my guess (and hope) that the PDW is a little less than it would be as separate options.
 
thebug...
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Unbiased review worth reading: by knotem
Sep 30, 2007 (10:05 am)
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Although I don’t agree 100% with all its contents, but it’s the most unbiased review I’ve read so far, for a change, that cover the car from head to toes, and it doesn’t literary repeat what Cadillac was saying about the 08 CTS during the 07 NAIAS.
 
http://www.epinions.com/content_404023316100

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