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Re: Sunshade [pucks] by thebug
Sep 27, 2007 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: pucks (Sep 27, 2007 9:01 am)

pucks - As always, some people will like the shade as it is, just as you do. I think they should offer an option of two screen types, the current and a solid cover. Maybe they will as the MY progresses.
 
thebug...
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Re: Pricing for PDW option group [thebug] by pao
Sep 28, 2007 (4:13 am)
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Replying to: thebug (Sep 27, 2007 12:57 pm)

look at the invoice price as well...believe for the PDR its around $2700 so about $500 off the MSRP price....Im waiting to see the package now as well.....would be a good combination...found out through my buying service offered by my bank....and talking with my local dealer..I can get the car for $950 over invoice..regardless of options and that includes destination fee......probably the best deal around at the moment if you dont have a GM card or other related discount
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Re: Pricing for PDW option group [thebug] by knotem
Sep 28, 2007 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: thebug (Sep 27, 2007 12:57 pm)

thebug - This is how to figure out the invoice price on the 08 CTS from the MSRP (sticker) price:
 
Take off 6.5% from the MSRP (vehicle only without options)
Take off 17% from Total MSRP options
Add $745 Dealer Freight Charge = Total Invoice Price
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Re: Well. . . [cdnpinhead] by 1487
Sep 28, 2007 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 26, 2007 1:12 pm)

"I think the CTS is an improved vehicle, and it wasn't that bad to begin with, assuming you're willing to go along with how it looks. It exists now, and the comparisons, done by actual people who have driven it and measured it in a number of ways, vs. a number of other cars, have begun. The "talk is cheap" phase of this whole exercise is over. "
 
have you been reading the reviews? based on your commentary I would assume not. You have beef with someone who said the vehicle would be VERY competitive and it is according to what I am reading. Can you explain how the vehicle was inproperly hyped up? It seems to me you werent a fan to begin with and now you are proclaiming the car a disappointment although the media doesnt seem to agree.
 
What we have here is a small group of disgruntled people who are in agreement that some minor issues overshadow the good things about this car. There is no consensus that the car is a dud as you seem to be inferring. The car as far as I can tell is delivering what was promised with a few minor drawbacks. If you have some type of evidence to show that the car has been underwhelming besides the opinions of 3 guys in this forum let me know.
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Re: Well. . . [1487] by louiswei
Sep 28, 2007 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: 1487 (Sep 28, 2007 11:30 am)

The car as far as I can tell is delivering what was promised with a few minor drawbacks.
 
Bingo!!
 
Couldn't say it better myself.
 
I am ready to crown CTS as the "standard of the segment" interior wise.
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Re: website [knotem] by 1487
Sep 28, 2007 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: knotem (Sep 26, 2007 3:26 pm)

I did read the cars.com review before but forgot he noted the complaint. The other reviews I read did not note the complaint. I dont have a problem with light from the sun entering the car as long as the direct glare of the sun isnt in my eye when driving. If the shade can accomplish that I could live with it. I'm sure the light factor is the reason why they have designed such a shade.
 
This doesnt seem to be a deal breaker for most who have driven the car. Edmunds is probably getting a long term car so perhaps they will note this issue during the test period. We know they are experts at finding fault in domestic vehicles.
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Re: website [1487] by louiswei
Sep 28, 2007 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: 1487 (Sep 28, 2007 11:35 am)

For the sunroof. What troubles me is not just that it couldn't cover the sunlight 100% but it's also that it looks cheap and the most important, it feels cheap. I'll tolerate this kind of design in a Scion tC but definitely not in a $40K+ luxury sedan. Cadillac should come up with a solution before more buyers are driven away due to this issue.
 
Other than that it's a solid effort from Cadillac.
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Re: Well. . . [1487] by cdnpinhead
Sep 28, 2007 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: 1487 (Sep 28, 2007 11:30 am)

Yes, I've read (& certainly heard about) the reviews.
 
The car is good, but it's not the second coming. Another GM fanboy made a big splash in all the CTS-related boards with "what was coming" a year or so ago. He's no longer to be heard from. Why? He still posts here. My post was directed at him & those like him. Talking up a car that doesn't exist is an easier chore than defending one that does.
 
The people I want to hear from are those who have posted on these boards for years (and there are several) who drive this class of car. You have an excellent advocate in Sevenfeet, and several other regulars have said complimentary things about the CTS. Others haven't. This is useful input to me.
 
The car rags praise anything to the sky that they think might result in increased ad revenue. They all thought the Infiniti M walked on water, but the market over the past few years tends to say otherwise.
 
It'll be instructive to see how the CTS does in the market. I think quite well, since there's a huge "buy American" group out there, and the car appears to be at least OK. Heavy & (overly, IMHO) flashy, but OK.
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Re: Pricing for PDW option group [thebug] by avatards
Sep 28, 2007 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: thebug (Sep 27, 2007 12:57 pm)

Note that PDR is not included in PDW. PDR is just a prerequisite for PDW. Options included in PDW are Y41 and Y40 which sum up to $3025 if ordered separately before Y41 became unavailable as a stand-alone collection, or $2875 when ordered with PDR. I believe the last figure is the closest prediction therefore.
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Re: Well. . . [cdnpinhead] by bingoman
Sep 28, 2007 (8:55 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 28, 2007 12:29 pm)

As the saying goes "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". What is flashy to you may be 'impressive' to someone else.
 
As to the car rags, I think that what is important to the magazine car jockey's is not what is important to the average car buyer. Most want an automatic transmission, not a manual. Most are not looking for sub 6 second 0-60 mph. Most car buyers are not writing to this forum.

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