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Replying to: marsha7 (Sep 25, 2007 4:49 pm) Is that including an early 09 CTS with a fix for the existing sunroof cover, or a conventional sunroof that covers the sun 100%, when it’s not need it, which will meet loyal Cadillac customer’s expectation? |
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 19, 2007 1:42 pm)
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Replying to: 1487 (Sep 26, 2007 10:46 am) Absolutely. We can agree on that, if you're willing to. The point I was trying to make was that the poster in question hyped the revised CTS to an extent that went well beyond perfection -- this thing was the second coming. He was called on it at the time, but the response was, . . . "just wait." Well, we did, and here we are. I think the CTS is an improved vehicle, and it wasn't that bad to begin with, assuming you're willing to go along with how it looks. It exists now, and the comparisons, done by actual people who have driven it and measured it in a number of ways, vs. a number of other cars, have begun. The "talk is cheap" phase of this whole exercise is over. I'm sure many people will sign up to own/lease the new CTS. Others won't. We should be able to agree on that as well. That wasn't my point.
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i know CTS has more hp but its weight waay bigger than TL. so question here is DI engine 306hp CTS faster than regular Acura TL or type S ?
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Replying to: 1487 (Sep 26, 2007 10:35 am) "By Kelsey Mays Cars.com September 4, 2007 ....it does a poor job blocking out the sun and mitigating wind noise. A smaller, conventional moonroof is not available.” Just click on the moonshade photo http://research.cars.com/go/crp/research.jsp?aff=tucson&revid=52131&makeid=8&mod- elid=6128&year=2008&revlogtype=20§ion=reviews. “By Frank Aukofer JSOnline September 12, 2007 The shade for the sunroof is some sort of perforated translucent fabric, which does a poor job of blocking bright sunlight” http://research.cars.com/go/crp/research.jsp;jsessionid=BFDZO2AICO45RLAYIEP4S0Y?- revid=52185&indcriteria=ASSET_TYPE-Affiliate+Review%2CBuying+Guide%2CVehicle+Pro- file%7CM-_8_%7CD-_6128_%7CY-_2008_%7CresultStructure-combined&revlogtype=19&make- id=8&modelid=6128&year=2008&myid=&revlogtype=19§ion=reviews&mode=&aff=nation- al The majority of the complaints on this board are because of the sunshade that doesn’t block out the sun-light when it’s not needed. It also penetrates heat to the cabin when the car’s parked under the sun (a problem can be fixed sooner or later). This is not a MINI; it's a Cadillac for GOD SAKE! Besides the number of complaints on this board, here’re some more complaints about the sunshade in the Internet from unbiased Cadillac’s loyal customers: “by mathouth from San Jose, California (9/21/07) Pros: Great looking, good handling, very powerful and luxurious Cons: Ugly semi sunroof shade penetrates 50% of the sun.” “by bgmr from Brampton, ON (9/16/07) Pros: New, exciting look, great performance, handling Cons: Sun shade needs to be improved” “by brian from colma, california (8/30/07) Pros: the new instrument panel is much improved over the 07s much easier to use Cons: the sunroof shade is very cheap on the ulra view sunroof” http://autos.yahoo.com/cadillac_cts-reviews_user/ Also: “by: pete paner Says: September 23rd, 2007 at 10:57 am I took the 08 CTS DI for a test drive; it didn’t take me long to really love it; the MSRP was a little over $47,000, but compare it to the MB E Class is a great bargain. Car critics called it “The best Cadillac in 50 Years” and I called it “the best Cadillac ever”. Unfortunately it has a cheap sunroof cover (with wind noise) which blocks only 50% of the sun when I don’t need it; what makes it worse is that you can’t configure the car with the Premium Luxury Package minus the sunroof, unless you’re willing to pay more for less, by not taking the Premium (bundling) package” “J.L. Says: September 9th, 2007 at 10:12 pm Well, I am glad to see a review that didn’t bash a GM product. I too hope the general public will forget what Cadillac has done in the 1970s to 1990s and just focus on this and if they must look at the pass, look at the time when Cadillac was a competitor of Rolls-Royce and Mercedes-Benz back in the 1920’s. Hopefully Cadillac will get up to more of that status, this is certainly a good start! keep it up Cadillac!” http://www.speedsportlife.com/2007/09/09/dubspeed-driven-first-drive-2008-cadill- ac-cts/#comment-41095 The last one was my favorite subject about Cadillac in general; I too like to compare today's Cadillac to Mercedes and Rolls since I'm a Cadillac fan. You can't hunt "die-hard" Cadillac fan that has any criticism about the car he/she likes. I’ve waited a year for the 08 CTS and I can wait few more months, another year, or I may never buy the CTS; but I'm definitely not going away now. If anybody has a complaint about the 08 CTS and really cares to have GM people hear it; email it to: mcsfeedback gm.com I did, because I care about the brand.
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Replying to: yooin14 (Sep 26, 2007 1:37 pm) The question you may want to have answered has nothing to do with "fast." I suspect your question is the CTS quicker than the TL? Further, if that is, indeed, your real question, HP has less to do with it than torque and torque at what RPM. Weight is important -- that is not the question. Finally, even if the torque is low or high at "X" RPM, the final drive ratio can also have a significant effect on "quickness." And, if you were really to pick your nits, speed will be limited by HP if the final drive ratio is too short. The DI engine with the 6 speed automatic and the extra heft (even) of the AWD system certainly feels "spirited." Such a combo may not win any drag races of the official type -- but the CTS DI AWD 6 speed auto is VERY quick and is, undoubtedly, as fast or faster than a super majority of other cars on the road at any price point. What the heck, most of these ELLPS and LPS type cars are artificially speed limited. Therefore, there is a decent chance they're all "about" equally fast. Why would anyone care anyway? How often do we really even have the "real estate" to exceed 130MPH? Get a grip. 
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