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#1394 of 2757 gasoline added to the fire.... by graphicguy Sep 21, 2007 (8:36 am)
I had inherriited an '05 STS. Fully loaded, including nav, bluetooth, etc.   The car had numerous problems, not the least of which was its practically worthless bluetooth phone capability.   Doing some research, after getting stonewalled by my 3 Caddy dealers regarding the "non-funtional" blue tooth capability (trying at least a half dozen different phones), GM and Cadillac, in particular, does not adhere to blue tooth standards. Who knows the reasons, but GM decided to do it "their way" when it came to blue tooth features. I suspect cost and licnesing fees had something to do with it.   What was clear in my research was the fact that Cadillac included bluetooth capabilities as a "check mark" feature item...when compared to other vehicles in its class. In typical GM fashion, no thought was given to its actual functionality (meaning it didn't work at all).   There were many other issues with the car. GM fought me tooth and nail, but they eventually bought it back under the "lemon law".   And yes....bluetooth capability will be a deal breaker for many, given how some of the more mundane cars out there offer this feature (and it works). And no, On-Star isn't a credible alternative (given its added cost and the need for yet another phone #). Replies to this message: rem506 (Sep 22, 2007 6:07 am) 1487 (Sep 26, 2007 10:42 am)
#1395 of 2757 Re: gasoline added to the fire.... [graphicguy] by rem506 Sep 22, 2007 (6:07 am)
Replying to: graphicguy (Sep 21, 2007 8:36 am) The STS isn't the firs car that contained a Bluetooth option that was completely worthless. I have a friend and a family member that each own G35's and neither are able to use their Bluetooth to hold a conversation. Both owners have the same complaint. They can hear the other party but the other party can't hear them. This inevitably leads to the other party asking them to be taken off Bluetooth becasue the drivers voice is too muffled to understand. Replies to this message: 1487 (Sep 26, 2007 10:42 am)
#1396 of 2757 Bye Bye STS by knotem Sep 22, 2007 (4:07 pm)
Cadillac DTS and STS will be nixed has officially been confirmed in an interview with the brand's general manager, Jim Taylor. Sales of both models are down for the year, and Taylor admits that one premium-luxury sedan will be developed to compete in the segment.   http://news.speeple.com/autoblog.com/2007/09/17/cadillac-replacing-dts-and-sts-w- ith-one-vehicle-entry-level-model-coming.htm Replies to this message: sevenfeet0 (Sep 23, 2007 3:30 pm)
#1397 of 2757 Re: Not unique to GM [cdnpinhead] by sddoc07 Sep 23, 2007 (1:40 am)
Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 21, 2007 5:20 am) I was referring to the cold weather package that is required if you want the rear-folding seats on certain 3-series models...the 335 doesn't have that restriction
#1398 of 2757 Re: Bye Bye STS [knotem] by sevenfeet0 Sep 23, 2007 (3:30 pm)
Replying to: knotem (Sep 22, 2007 4:07 pm) I'm happy to hear that GM has finally made this decision. Truthfully I think the handwriting was on the wall some time ago but I think that there were some in GM that were hedging their bets with keeping the DTS around in some way shape or form. The Deville/DTS has been around for nearly 60 years and its hard to let go a product that historically has been very good to you in terms of sales. But that product no longer fits into the future of where Cadillac needs to be.   The last great customer base of the Deville/DTS was the Greatest Generation. The Baby Boomers long since moved onto other kinds of vehicles, mostly European imports and Lexus (including my mother). Cadillac has been trying to make strides to remake their product line and image, but this product needs to be relegated to the past to give product managers the freedom to go to the next step.
#1400 of 2757 New option group by thebug Sep 25, 2007 (10:01 am)
Has anyone heard about the PDW option package. While trying to place my order, (I requested everything except the moon roof, and AWD) they couldn't get the order to run as such. After a week of trying they called Cadillac. Cadillac told them that they had to select to PDW option (it supposedly became available 9/22/07) which includes the performance package (PDR) alone with Y40 lux level 1, & Y41 lux level 2. To date, it still hasn't worked, but I guess they know what they are talking about.   I wonder how the strike will effect the orders for new Cadillacs. The news talked about Pontiac G6 prodution, but mention no others.   thebug... Replies to this message: knotem (Sep 25, 2007 4:21 pm) thebug (Sep 26, 2007 6:08 am)
#1401 of 2757 Re: New option group [thebug] by knotem Sep 25, 2007 (4:21 pm)
Replying to: thebug (Sep 25, 2007 10:01 am) Here's the latest update from GM (9/21/07)   PDW NEW! Performance Luxury Package, includes (Y40) Luxury Level One Package and (Y41) Luxury Level Two Package 1 - Requires (PDR) Performance Collection. Not available with (MN6) Aisin 6-speed manual transmission, (PDP) Luxury Collection, (PDQ) Premium Luxury Collection, (UAV) AM/FM stereo with CD/DVD player, MP3 playback, Bose 5.1 Cabin Surround Sound 10-speaker system and HDD-based navigation with XM NavTraffic/Real Time Weather, or Fleet order types. Can upgrade (P75) 18" x 8" (45.7 cm x 20.3 cm) aluminum wheels with premium multi-coat painted finish to (P63) 18" x 8" (45.7 cm x 20.3 cm) aluminum wheels with high-polished finish. 2 - Requires (PDR) Performance Collection. Not available with (MX7) 6-speed automatic transmission for AWD, (PDP) Luxury Collection, (PDQ) Premium Luxury Collection, (UAV) AM/FM stereo with CD/DVD player, MP3 playback, Bose 5.1 Cabin Surround Sound 10-speaker system and HDD-based navigation with XM NavTraffic/Real Time Weather, or Fleet order types. Can upgrade (P75) 18" x 8" (45.7 cm x 20.3 cm) aluminum wheels with premium multi-coat painted finish to (P63) 18" x 8" (45.7 cm x 20.3 cm) aluminum wheels with high-polished finish. Also, can replace (Y42) 18" 45.7 cm) All-Season Tire Performance Package with (Y43) 18" (45.7 cm) Summer Tire Performance Package Replies to this message: thebug (Sep 26, 2007 6:08 am)
#1402 of 2757 knotem by marsha7 Sep 25, 2007 (4:49 pm)
No, with tongue in cheek, HERE is the latest update from GM   All vehicle production will be on hold until Spring, 2008, when we will bring out all of our new cars as early 2009 models... Replies to this message: knotem (Sep 26, 2007 6:19 am)
#1403 of 2757 Edmunds test by rayainsw Sep 26, 2007 (6:03 am)
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=122751?tid=edmun- ds.il.home.photopanel..1.* Replies to this message: KarenS (Sep 26, 2007 6:31 am)

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