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Not unique to GM by sddoc07
Sep 21, 2007 (12:46 am)
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abqhudson - it's unfortunately not unique to GM to hold out on "essentials" like that. Check out Audi and their $350 for rear side-airbags on ALL of their models! Heck, you can't even get a garage-transmitter on a top of the line A6 (50,000+) w/o getting a ~$2,000 technology package. Or how about having to pay almost two grand on BMW's just so you can get folding rear seats? It's the way the game is played
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Re: Not unique to GM [sddoc07] by cdnpinhead
Sep 21, 2007 (5:20 am)
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Replying to: sddoc07 (Sep 21, 2007 12:46 am)

". . .how about having to pay almost two grand on BMW's just so you can get folding rear seats?"
 
Well, I'm not sure which BMWs you've been optioning out, but your comment was enough to send me to the "Build Your BMW" section of their website, just to verify what I thought was true. Sure enough, fold-down rear seats are still $475 (on the 3-series) and can be chosen independently of any other option or package.
 
Since I hadn't priced anything out for six months or more, I thought the situation might have changed since I last did it. Nope, so I guess I'm confused by your comment.
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Re: 2 weeks new and some minor issues [rspruitt] by jdavis12
Sep 21, 2007 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: rspruitt (Sep 20, 2007 11:53 am)

rspruitt -
You have a point about the low front bumper - looks good and makes the front end look tough but, parking curbs and minor snow piles this winter could be a problem. There was an earlier post indicating the rails in a car wash rubbed! Who wants to test that theory?
Dealer indicated the rapid movement of the oil pressure gauge was normal, including the range of 35 idle to topping out the gauge at 80 when accelerating.
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gasoline added to the fire.... by graphicguy
Sep 21, 2007 (8:36 am)
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I had inherriited an '05 STS. Fully loaded, including nav, bluetooth, etc.
 
The car had numerous problems, not the least of which was its practically worthless bluetooth phone capability.
 
Doing some research, after getting stonewalled by my 3 Caddy dealers regarding the "non-funtional" blue tooth capability (trying at least a half dozen different phones), GM and Cadillac, in particular, does not adhere to blue tooth standards. Who knows the reasons, but GM decided to do it "their way" when it came to blue tooth features. I suspect cost and licnesing fees had something to do with it.
 
What was clear in my research was the fact that Cadillac included bluetooth capabilities as a "check mark" feature item...when compared to other vehicles in its class. In typical GM fashion, no thought was given to its actual functionality (meaning it didn't work at all).
 
There were many other issues with the car. GM fought me tooth and nail, but they eventually bought it back under the "lemon law".
 
And yes....bluetooth capability will be a deal breaker for many, given how some of the more mundane cars out there offer this feature (and it works). And no, On-Star isn't a credible alternative (given its added cost and the need for yet another phone #).
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Re: gasoline added to the fire.... [graphicguy] by rem506
Sep 22, 2007 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Sep 21, 2007 8:36 am)

The STS isn't the firs car that contained a Bluetooth option that was completely worthless. I have a friend and a family member that each own G35's and neither are able to use their Bluetooth to hold a conversation. Both owners have the same complaint. They can hear the other party but the other party can't hear them. This inevitably leads to the other party asking them to be taken off Bluetooth becasue the drivers voice is too muffled to understand.
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Bye Bye STS by knotem
Sep 22, 2007 (4:07 pm)
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Cadillac DTS and STS will be nixed has officially been confirmed in an interview with the brand's general manager, Jim Taylor. Sales of both models are down for the year, and Taylor admits that one premium-luxury sedan will be developed to compete in the segment.
 
http://news.speeple.com/autoblog.com/2007/09/17/cadillac-replacing-dts-and-sts-w- ith-one-vehicle-entry-level-model-coming.htm
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Re: Not unique to GM [cdnpinhead] by sddoc07
Sep 23, 2007 (1:40 am)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Sep 21, 2007 5:20 am)

I was referring to the cold weather package that is required if you want the rear-folding seats on certain 3-series models...the 335 doesn't have that restriction
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Re: Bye Bye STS [knotem] by sevenfeet0
Sep 23, 2007 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: knotem (Sep 22, 2007 4:07 pm)

I'm happy to hear that GM has finally made this decision. Truthfully I think the handwriting was on the wall some time ago but I think that there were some in GM that were hedging their bets with keeping the DTS around in some way shape or form. The Deville/DTS has been around for nearly 60 years and its hard to let go a product that historically has been very good to you in terms of sales. But that product no longer fits into the future of where Cadillac needs to be.
 
The last great customer base of the Deville/DTS was the Greatest Generation. The Baby Boomers long since moved onto other kinds of vehicles, mostly European imports and Lexus (including my mother). Cadillac has been trying to make strides to remake their product line and image, but this product needs to be relegated to the past to give product managers the freedom to go to the next step.
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New option group by thebug
Sep 25, 2007 (10:01 am)
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Has anyone heard about the PDW option package. While trying to place my order, (I requested everything except the moon roof, and AWD) they couldn't get the order to run as such. After a week of trying they called Cadillac. Cadillac told them that they had to select to PDW option (it supposedly became available 9/22/07) which includes the performance package (PDR) alone with Y40 lux level 1, & Y41 lux level 2. To date, it still hasn't worked, but I guess they know what they are talking about.
 
I wonder how the strike will effect the orders for new Cadillacs. The news talked about Pontiac G6 prodution, but mention no others.
 
thebug...

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