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Replying to: sevenfeet0 (Sep 18, 2007 9:00 pm) Mike |
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The keyless entry/ignition feature on the 2008 CTS is one of the nicer options and I have a hard time believing anyone could have any serious fault with it. Is the complaint that Caddy used a "switch" that you turn rather than a button that you push? It's the same natural and traditional motion we have all been executing for years without having to take the key out of your pocket and physically place it in the ignition. The key fob that accompanies the keyless entry/ignition is sleek looking and feels solid. I was very impressed. The remote start is an added bonus. This is a feature that should be put into the "positive" category.
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Replying to: mikemckena (Sep 19, 2007 7:58 am)
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Replying to: 1487 (Sep 18, 2007 4:55 pm) They have updated CTS site on caddy.com. I dont see the big deal with bluetooth and would not base a car buying decision on that at all. It is offered with many other cars but typically only if you get navigation which means that many luxury cars do have bluetooth. I dont talk on the phone enough while driving to make it worthwhile. Besides, with BT headsets around I dont see why you need handsfree calling in your car too. It sounds like many of you are not going to get the car for a few reasons that I consider minor. Perhaps the CTS isnt for you. As for the keyless start, the CTS has the same type of system that Infinti and Acura use. I wouldnt say its outdated by any means. Just because it doesnt have a pushbutton doesnt mean its not advanced. Last time I checked the competition does not offer remote start with keyless go. ===================================================== This is the thing. I am not sure half the opposition to the car is well-informed. The press has just raved and raved over this car. "Cheap" sunroof? "Excess heat"? I have not read any indication that any of the people here have experienced the car's AC being unable to handle the "excess heat". It's just a wild extrapolation. This car may not be "the car of the ages", but it is a no-compromise car, as there are many features it has that the competition does not (as all "full" cars do when they are new). I agree. I highly doubt any assertion that "lack of Bluetooth" and a "cheap sunroof" (otherwise taken to be a marvel of panorama in every car it appears in--QX7, SRX) would negatively affect any serious attempt to buy this car. It could, cheaply, confer an "air of discrimination" though. |
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Sep 18, 2007 5:22 pm) Replying to: 1487 (Sep 18, 2007 5:55 pm) Many of my issues with the car have to do with a broader issue: marketing. Bluetooth and the sunroof will be, for many, deal breakers and that is my concern. ===================================================== But you cannot purchase the car for "many". You can only purchase the car for you. The car will do at least as well as the old one, and possibly better (with variants); so we cannot tell what will be a "deal breaker". My feeling is that both are superfluous concerns. Bluetooth earpieces are ubiquitous and widely used, and that the sunroof is "cheap" is subjective (and probably a minority view). It certainly won't affect the car's sales numbers, since its sheer size is impressive. Let us pick this back up in a year and see how it fared. |
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Replying to: knotem (Sep 18, 2007 8:33 pm) Replying to: 1487 (Sep 18, 2007 5:55 pm) "It sounds like many of you are not going to get the car for a few reasons that I consider minor. Perhaps the CTS isnt for you." That unforgivable sunroof design is not a minor problem if it can’t block out 70% of the heat and the sun light when I don’t need them. It’s a major SHOW STOPPER in my opinion and many others on this board. Anybody cares to state his/her opinion has the right to speak up; if a person has to praise or criticize the car I’m thinking of buying, I would like to hear it loud and clear without getting offended, even if that criticism was exaggerated or wrong, because that critic is a real Cadillac fan, saying his/her honest opinion, not a paid Auto Writer. ======================================================== Please point to multiple car reviews from magazines, online publications and new owners or people who have test-driven this car that point to the sunroof being a "SHOW STOPPER" (sic). Such a view is unique to a few posters on this forum and largely rhetorical. Can anyone refer me to any reviewers here who failed to overcome the "70%" heat problem with the AC? Did I miss the posts where people complained about the heat (on actual test drives)? Other than that, this is the first time I have ever heard anybody try to suggest that auto writers could be biased in favor of Cadillac (or GM).
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| Anyone finding the red ones in stock? The dealers near me have none (Dallas). | |
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Replying to: rem506 (Sep 19, 2007 10:15 am) The keyless entry/ignition feature on the 2008 CTS is one of the nicer options and I have a hard time believing anyone could have any serious fault with it. Is the complaint that Caddy used a "switch" that you turn rather than a button that you push? It's the same natural and traditional motion we have all been executing for years without having to take the key out of your pocket and physically place it in the ignition. The key fob that accompanies the keyless entry/ignition is sleek looking and feels solid. I was very impressed. The remote start is an added bonus. This is a feature that should be put into the "positive" category. ============================================================ It is a positive. It's way simpler than BMW's keyless ignition system--which Edmunds hated (as well as Car and Driver--and maybe even Motor Trend); and it's the same as the Acura RL's:   Interestingly enough, Car and Driver complained that Acura's design drained the battery since it was easy to not turn it all the way to "Off"-- "Complaints, yes, we got complaints. The ignition knob on the steering-wheel column seemed a dumb idea and left at least two editors stranded with a dead battery because they hadn’t turned the knob all the way off. In a car with a traditional ignition, they wouldn’t have been able to remove the key and kill the battery." http://www.caranddriver.com/longroadtests/10770/long-term-test-review-2005-acura- -rl-2005-acura-rl-rants-and-raves-page2.html So, three to four years later, we know Cadillac's system is better than that. Here is how it looks:   Much of the criticism of the car on this board is unfair in the light of its competitors. This is quickly obvious when you look at the details. |
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Replying to: sevenfeet0 (Sep 19, 2007 11:06 am) Here are some night shots:     
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I started wondering if Rockylee had been reincarnated with a new screen name, but apparently not. He's still posting elsewhere these days, but doesn't want to participate here or in the Entry-Level board, now that there actually is an '08 CTS. Strange, given his previous history. I'd thought some of the recent cheerleading might have been him. Guess again. |
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