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You are in the Cadillac CTS/CTS-V
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Cadillac CTS-V, Cadillac CTS, Sedan
Jul 03, 2007 (4:55 pm)
I tend to find your prediction tracks with mine. The CTS, regardless of what is done to move the cars out the door, will be in the upper $40's -- Cadillac wants to be the Premium entry level LPS and remain head held high within the LPS class.
One way to do this, of course, is to raise the price. The fact, hopefully, that a $47K CTS may be had for a low lease price is just the strategy apparently used by BMW and at least ONCE, in my case, Audi.
The phrase, that was then, this is now is not lost on me, but as I have related previously, we have two 2005 German cars, both with 36 month, 45K mile leases with almost no money out of pocket to get going. Her $47K Bimmer was $581/mo and my $53K Audi was $640/mo. In my case, I didn't even have a sec dep. We both have full maintenance too.
I have priced these American cars [repeatedly] with a desire to lease them. Apples to apples, the American cars (and many of the Japanese models) at that price per month are, relatively speaking, "strippies."
I am NOT a fan of outsourcing, but when an American "boy" like me spends $X/mo, and I can get an "entry level" STS or CTS or a fully loaded Infiniti, BMW or Audi, I cave and outsource my transportation overseas.
More's the pity.
Damn legacy costs.
#1011 of 2880 Re: Power \ TQ \ RPM [ortega]
Jul 04, 2007 (6:58 am)
#1012 of 2880 Re: Power \ TQ \ RPM [ortega]
Jul 04, 2007 (8:47 am)
Very flat torque curve, indeed. What will really be amazing is if the claims that this engine (with an 11.3 compression ratio) will run on regular fuel are true.
#1013 of 2880 Re: pricing \ sales [rayainsw]
Jul 04, 2007 (10:54 am)
I think sales are down because so many potential buyers are waiting for the 08 model. Since the trunk is still tiny and the rear headroom only slightly better, I'm waiting to see the wagon and/or BRX. There's always something better next year.
#1014 of 2880 CTS sales Re: Ray - CTS/STS [pucks]
Jul 05, 2007 (8:29 am)
“Given that the CTS went on sale in Feb 03, you would expect the sales to decline, especially with a new model a few months away. The June YTD numbers are not near as bad as the percentages you quote. Sales grew every year through 05 and fell back a little last year. If they get the 08 out soon enough, they might even outsell last year.”
At Lunch, I looked a little further back - at a couple of months in 2005 vs 2004 for the CTS:
Sept 2005 vs 2004
CTS 3,847 4,202 -8.4%
Aug 2005 vs 2004
CTS 3,610 4,365 -20.5%
“I have no defense for the STS.”
Me neither . . .
NOT a sales or marketing guru . . .
Jul 06, 2007 (3:52 am)
Was at my dealer's yesterday and they basically concurred about current sales. They said that everyone is waiting to see the 2008 and that he could probably sell every one he could get his hands on quickly. We only have a little while longer to wait...
#1016 of 2880 Re: CTS Sales [sevenfeet0]
Jul 06, 2007 (5:01 am)
Good to hear from you again. What are you driving now? I know you told us, but I forgot.
Craving to get back with a CTS?
#1018 of 2880 Distribution Updates
Jul 10, 2007 (3:53 am)
Mechanical section-(MN6) Transmission, Aisin 6-speed manual, moved RPO code into Free Flow RPO Code column. Changed availability for 1SB PEG from "S" with a footnote #2 to "A" with a footnote #2. Changed footnote #1 to read "Must specify a transmission. Not available with (Y42) 18" (45.7 cm) All-Season Tire Performance Package. Base MSRP includes (MN6) Aisin 6-speed manual transmission.". Changed footnote #2 to read "Must specify a transmission. Requires (Y43) 18" (45.7 cm) Summer Tire Performance Package.".
Mechanical section-(MX0) Transmission, 6-speed automatic, changed availability for 1SB PEG from "A" with a footnote #1 to "S" with a new footnote #2. New footnote #2 reads "Must specify a transmission. Base MSRP includes (MX0) 6-speed automatic transmission.".
#1019 of 2880 Re: Distribution Updates [rayainsw]
Jul 10, 2007 (4:38 am)
... and I thought legal documents are hard to read....