Last post on Feb 22, 2010 at 5:55 PM
You are in the Cadillac XLR and XLR-V
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Mercedes-Benz SL-Class, Cadillac XLR-V, Cadillac XLR, Convertible
Compare and contrast the features of the Cadillac XLR/XLR-V with those of the Mercedes-Benz SL-Class models.
#62 of 64 Cadillac must go over the top to compete. [jlmartin]
Jan 27, 2009 (1:27 am)
Im disappointed but not surprised that our Cadillac XLR has been cancelled as of February 2009.
I've enjoyed Cadillac convertibles for 34 years, ever since Grandma drove me to the beach with the top down way back in 1975. It was the weekend after she bought her new Eldorado and my first ride in a convertible. Eight years later I turned 16 and Grandma gave me the Eldorado.
Currently own an 04 XLR and a 93 Allante and love them both. Having followed Cadillac for most of my life and being painfully aware of its recent history, I've always felt our XLR needed more refinement and marketing support to avoid following in Allanteís footsteps as a short lived one generation car.
When the XLR came out I caught a lot of flack for my first post:
4-10-2003 Next Generation Northstar Needs MORE POWER!!!
I am pleased to see Cadillac going after the 2 seat hi-lux market segment with its XLR.
I am displeased that Cadillac still thinks it can get away with putting in merely adequate horsepower in a flagship model.
The pretty but flawed Allante had only 200 hp until 1993(last year of production), its competitors featured 300+ hp V8 and V12 engines. Cadillacís balky manual top, FWD and modest performance made Allante seem half assed.
This time Cadillac has: correct for its segment RWD and an automated convertible hardtop. Unfortunately 315 hp is not enough when you pay $75,000! Currently 400+hp is the class standard.
Again someone is asleep at the wheel.
WAKE UP CADILLAC!!! In order to regain market share you have to WONDERFULLY OUTDO THE COMPETITION while providing the same price point.
Despite Cadillac's shortsightedness I bought my XLR anyway and enjoy it daily.
Last summer I felt XLR was endangered and received disagreement for this post:
Back in 2003 I felt the XLR was sharp, but not impressive enough to compete strongly against luxury imports.
OF COURSE I GOT LOTS OF GRIEF from folks with their heads in the clouds or worse.
Sales figures of XLR have proven what i knew 5 years ago.
The standard $80k XLR should have the current 443hp XLR-V engine and equipment
The $100k XLR-V should add the 550hp supercharged CTS-V
engine paired up with an automatic.
Both should have an ultra luxury interior copied directly from Cadillacís Sixteen concept.
This may seem like overkill, but during the last 20 years Cadillac has lost much prestige and money.
To regain prestige, Cadillac must go above and beyond what the competition is doing at the same price.
I caught even stronger disagreement when I spelled out my concern about the XLR's future:
What no one seems to admit here is that Cadillac has lost tons of prestige and sales and is now playing catch up in its own domestic market.
To regain that credibility, GM must go over the top with its newest Cadillac models. Yes the XLR weighs less and looks better at the curb than the europeans. However it is not over the top enough in performance or interior presentation to stand high above the competition. For XLR to succeed and continue production, just being competent wont cut it. Class leading road performance, reliability and interior decor are crucial. Without these attributes and generous amounts of smart advertising /promotion/PR , Cadillac will continue as an also ran in its own home market and the XLR will go away . I want Cadillac to be #1 in the US luxury market.
I am passionate about American cars, especially Cadillac and have always been concerned for the jobs of those making American cars. I have never bought an imported/import branded car. My XLR despite its shortcomings has been a very good car, it would have been a pleasure to buy another one.
What puzzles me are the negative or strongly dissenting forum responses to my pointing out areas where our cars could stand some improvement.
Is it that some of our folks here are in denial, just like GM has been for so long?
#63 of 64 Re: Cadillac must go over the top to compete. [ny3uvl714]
Mar 07, 2009 (5:51 am)
I share agreement in the opinion Cadillac required more advertising of the XLR, due to the segment of this market is very limited and I view this to be the weak link for XLR sales, not the product itself. That is not to say more power and improvements are not required to remain competitive and superior in this segment of luxury performance roadsters. That said, recently I evaluated Cadillac's 2009 XLR Platinum, Jaguar's XK Convertible, Mercedes-Benz's SL550 and Aston Martin's Vantage Convertible to replace my 2005 Cadillac XLR. All of these luxury performance roadsters are world class products.
From a pure design perspective, there are only two luxury performance roadsters that reach to the level of exotic and they are Aston Martin's Vantage Convertible and Cadillac's XLR Platinum. I simply adore both of these designs and for different reasons they are my first place picks. Cadillacís XLR Platinum advance engineering, technology, systems integration and features are superior. The Aston Martinís Vantage Convertible detail interior craftsmanship, palate selection of color and materials are superior. But clearly the performance design of Aston Martinís Vantage Convertible is more in line with Cadillacís XLR-V. However, both give up a small measure of ride comfort and overall refinement for the performance advantage. This brings me back to Cadillacís XLR Platinum. It embodies all of the best attributes of an exotic designed sports car GT coupe, luxury performance roadster and one of the most advanced technology sports cars produced on the planet.
I have decided to replace my 2005 Cadillac XLR and the best luxury performance roadster for my requirements is the 2009 Cadillac XLR Platinum. I placed my order with my Cadillac dealer and we take delivery today. For my requirements, I simply want the best the world has to offer in a luxury performance roadster and Cadillacís 2009 XLR Platinum gets the sale.
#64 of 64 Porsche 911 Cab Versus SL55 AMG
Feb 22, 2010 (5:55 pm)
Porsche 911 Cab Versus SL55 AMG Looking for some help on a tough call. I am looking to buy either a used 2005, 911 (997) Cab or an SL55 AMG. The car is for that little extra escape and therefore I am looking for some fun as well as a level of comfort. Does anyone have any helpful thoughts or experiences with either?