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Re: That Argentinan Woman [ljflx] by dewey
Jul 03, 2009 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jul 01, 2009 10:57 am)

. I simply take what best suits me at the time I need a car and hardly care about anyone's perception of it.
 
That applies especially in my case. In many profession the car you drive is an essential indicator of success. Right now in my case a car has no relevance with my success since I live and die by my investment returns. At this stage of my life all my new clients are referrals.
 
At an earlier part of my life driving a BMW or any luxury marque was important to me. Not now.
 
So what about driving dynamics? The pure joy and thrill of driving a performance car? In all honesty I forgot what those joys are with the trials and tribulations of the piece of Bavarian crap that I intend to dispose of ASAP!!!
 
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Re: Greetings from Seattle! [cyclone4] by dewey
Jul 03, 2009 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Jul 02, 2009 3:47 pm)

Congratulations on the new Lexus RX!!!
 
I am sure it is quite an impressive piece of engineering. I wanted one too but unfortuately in Canade the price of a new hybrid RX makes no sense when compared to USA pricing and pricing compare to a non-hybrid RX ($46K non-hybird RX versus $59K hybrid RX).
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Re: Owning a Lux Car Out of Warranty vs. Depreciation on Year One [dewey] by lexusguy
Jul 03, 2009 (1:14 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 03, 2009 9:41 am)

In my view if a car does not have the durability or quality to last beyond a few years without major headaches then that car is a piece of junk.
 
I'm not sure that's true. Take a Ferrari for example. Properly maintaining a Ferrari means significant expenses every year, even if nothing goes wrong. That doesn't mean a 599GTB is a piece of junk. It comes with the territory.
 
High-end European cars are more likely to have problems and will be more expensive to maintain as they age than Japanese cars. This isn't news. That's different though from getting stuck with a lemon. If my S6 was anything like your 3 series, I would've made Audi buy it back and I'd be driving something else. Probably an XF.
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Re: Owning a Lux Car Out of Warranty vs. Depreciation on Year One [lexusguy] by tagman
Jul 03, 2009 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 03, 2009 1:14 pm)

California has the "Lemon Law"... too many repeated repairs and the car can be returned. I wonder what protection Canadians have from lemons.
 
TM
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [dewey] by circlew
Jul 03, 2009 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 03, 2009 9:52 am)

At an earlier part of my life driving a BMW or any luxury marque was important to me. Not now.

Ditto. CR-V for me.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Owning a Lux Car Out of Warranty vs. Depreciation on Year One [tagman] by lexusguy
Jul 03, 2009 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 03, 2009 1:54 pm)

California has the "Lemon Law"... too many repeated repairs and the car can be returned.
 
Same here. In PA, if the same problem cannot be fixed by the third try, or if the car has been in the shop a total of 30+ days, the manufacturer can be taken to court. If they lose, they have to buy the car back and pay attorney fees and any other legal costs. Used car buyers are also protected from lemon law buyback cars if a dealer tries to represent them as having a clean title.
 
I'm not sure how it works in Canada.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [dewey] by cdnpinhead
Jul 03, 2009 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 03, 2009 9:44 am)

. . ."living hell on 4 run flat tires."
 
Interesting turn of phrase. It helps buttress my decision to have purchased my own appliance.
 
Enjoy yours.
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Re: Owning a Lux Car Out of Warranty vs. Depreciation on Year One [lexusguy] by dewey
Jul 03, 2009 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 03, 2009 1:14 pm)

No lemon laws here in Ontario, Canada otherwise I would have returned my car to the dealership.
 
Take a Ferrari for example. Properly maintaining a Ferrari means significant expenses every year, even if nothing goes wrong. That doesn't mean a 599GTB is a piece of junk. It comes with the territory.
 
I guess junk is the wrong word. Waste would be more appropriate.
 
In my opinion luxury can be subdivided into three categories.
 
Conspicuous Waste-- Ferrari or a Hummer
Conspicuous Precision --- Lexus or any car that is well built in a high quality/durable fashion.
Conspicuous Reputation --- A European Marqe rich in history
 
Luxury that is defined primarily by waste (excessive primitive fuel inefficient horspower) or "repuation that any snob can recognize" is not in my opionion a worthy luxury. Precision in terms of technology, engineering, quality and durability is what counts most for me at this point of time.
 
The beauty of a Prius in that it provides "conspicuous precison"-best of the best technology, reliability, quality and durability (based on its one decade history) without a luxury price. The only reason a Prius is not a luxury car is because of its low price. For people who like paying luxury prices can always buy a Lexus HS instead of a Prius.
 
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [cdnpinhead] by dewey
Jul 03, 2009 (8:52 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jul 03, 2009 6:22 pm)

Thanks.
 
At least I dont feel so lonely now in my quest for an appliance.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [circlew] by dewey
Jul 03, 2009 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 03, 2009 4:34 pm)

The CR-V is one of the most sensible vehicles out thereespecially with AWD--assuming you live with white winters.
 

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