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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Oct 30, 2009 7:29 am) Who has a passion for Lexus technology and Lexus engineering? Dentists. |
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 30, 2009 11:11 am) Technically the M3 won. The contest was "you come with whatever sedan you want and try to beat Bob Lutz in a CTS-V." Mr. Cooper did just that in his M3. The contest was never about beating Cadillac engineers and test drivers. I suspect if Motorsport actually got involved and brought their own engineers and test drivers, the M3 may well have been at the top of the board. In any case it succeeds at what it was always designed to be, a PR stunt for Cadillac. The CTS-V is an impressive machine, no doubt about that, but I wonder how long the whole V series will continue to exist when faced with the reality of the business. Based on Nurburgring times the CTS-V is the fastest thing with 4 doors short of a Panamera Turbo, but unlike GM, the Germans still have some money, and will continue to improve their cars.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 30, 2009 7:42 pm) Ahh, thank you LG for putting that in perspective. Yes, technically the M3 won. In any case it succeeds at what it was always designed to be, a PR stunt for Cadillac. That was quite obvious from the start. The question becomes, just how effective was it? GM has big hurdles to jump... even bigger than before, now that the world has witnessed its near collapse. The actual GM company itself, beyond its already questionable products, is further burdened with a negative stigma to overcome. I expect we'll be seeing plenty more PR attempts from GM down the road. TM
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 30, 2009 10:11 pm) Of course, that's been the GM culture for decades. It's always about the next stunt, or gimmick, or sale. The "V-series challenge" does nothing to move more Malibus, and it also sort of glosses over the fact that other than the CTS, the rest of the Vs are either dead or dying. There will certainly be no round two with an XLR-V against XKRs and Porsches. |
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 29, 2009 4:51 pm) The service problem that required the A4 loaner was actually on my Porsche not my Audi, the dealer sells both brands under one roof. I took the Porsche in two weeks ago for a routine oil change and service, it only has 13,000 miles in 3.5 years. I told the tech that the cruise control wasn't working and I wanted it fixed before the Warranty ran out next spring. Well the routine Oil change service was a deal at only $694.94 (Cayenne loaner - Panmera test drive day), and the tech said that they had to order a new instrument cluster to fix the cruise issue. One week later, the part is in, I return to get the work done (A4 loaner) and when they call me to tell me the work is done they mention a slight problem that they had. The tech that put the new instrument cluster in the car had to re-set the miles on the new digital dash with the actual miles that were on the car when I brought it in that morning. Well he hit the wrong button and it set it to Kilometers so my car has gone from 13K mile down to 8K miles, not too bad of a problem but the car has already been logged into their service record system with 13K miles. So they have to order another part at their expense - almost $2,000 according to them, and I have to take the car back again, kind of a hassle, they will make it up to me I was told. I think any service experience for any brand is always open to human error as this case was. It happens in the low end cars and the high end cars.
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After testing and looking on different colors, I highly recommend darker hues. Somehow, it shows the lines nicely without being overt, and to this person's eyes at least, the brighter colors make the car look cheap, particularly in silver. The interior, nicely done with premium materials, but everything goes down the drain thanks to the soap box design....  Btw, has anyone tried using the seat mounted controls? I'm not sure why but the controls felt cheap to the feel and touch, plus IMO it makes the seat uncomfortable to use even for a skinnier guy like me... I won't say much about the engine as the ones MB offer here are ridiculously tiny and underpowered 2.0 and 3.0 lt engines (the 3.0lt unit is the same engine used in C300).
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Oct 31, 2009 7:28 am) I have no idea why MB tacked those on. You cant see them when you're actually in the seat, much less use them while driving. They sucked just as much in the old Infiniti G, and Infiniti was smart enough to get rid of them. Overall the interior doesn't do it for me. The coupe is better with its conventional shifter, but I can't get past the weird creases on the passenger side in the coupe. Ultimately I don't see any reason to buy an E over the upcoming 5 or A6.
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Replying to: anthonyp (Oct 30, 2009 2:41 pm) I myself was thinking about a 2010 MB Blutec E320 but here was the deal killer for me: Run flat tires! Forget it! The reason the diesel version has run flat tires is to eliminate the need of a spare tire in order to accomodate that urea bag sold with MB diesels. Run flat tires are hideously priced here in Canada ($800 each for 18' tires) and it was run flat tires that really annoyed me when I owned my BMW 335i. So you asked if I have regrets that the financial discussions here are over? No. Not at all. In my very particular case almost all my time is spent with investments. All I want here in this forum is a diversion from investments. Today I am like a Lonely Maytag Repairman who is ignored by his clients. I cherish this loneliness because I know when markets go down my telephone will not leave me alone all day. Market indexes are up almost 60 percent and now is the least exciting time to talk about markets. Unlike exciting March when almost everything was bargain priced and worth buying. |
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Replying to: clembo (Oct 31, 2009 4:37 am) True. It is a human error and is forgiveable. But the frequent recurring problems with my BMW 335i was inhuman and unforgivable....well at least until I get bored with my Prius. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 31, 2009 8:29 am)  ).
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