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#22149 of 22203 Re: I need help [plekto] by carnaught

Apr 05, 2011 (8:31 am)

Replying to: plekto (Apr 05, 2011 8:11 am)
If I were to get a new "M", I'd only lease it, not buy it. The resale on Infinitis are poor (I've taken a beating on each I've owned), and one tires of Infinitis quickly. Keep in mind that in these times of rising oil prices, Infinitis burn a lot of gasoline.

#22150 of 22203 Re: I need help [carnaught] by circlew

Apr 05, 2011 (8:39 am)

Replying to: carnaught (Apr 05, 2011 8:31 am)
The poor economy and resale (in comparison with their equals) are concerns with Infinity.
 
But the A8 also is marginally worse in resale vs. Merc and Bimmer.
 
The thing is, I keep liking that understated presentation with the A8. But the A-7 might be worth the wait...
 

 

 
Regards,
OW

#22151 of 22203 Re: I need help [circlew] by plekto

Apr 05, 2011 (3:08 pm)

Replying to: circlew (Apr 05, 2011 8:39 am)
Cool. An Audi 5 Series
 
Of course, if money is an issue, just get a CPO one. You can get a new S550 4Matic (as an example) for $85K and a CPO one 3 years old with less than 30K on it for $55K. Mercedes has one of the best CPO programs as well, so it's really a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned.
 
I also hear word that Porsche will have a coupe version of the Panamera. The bits and pieces that have been leaked and the mock-ups and drawings that people have come across suggest that it will be a very beautiful car. They'll probably resurrect the 928 name as well.
(I just got everyone reading this a bit excited - heh)
 
I guess it would be like making a 4 door Mustang. Certain cars just look wrong with 4 doors.

#22152 of 22203 Re: I need help [blckislandguy] by james27

Apr 05, 2011 (5:43 pm)

Replying to: blckislandguy (Apr 04, 2011 6:36 pm)
I have a 2006 M35x and am replacing it with a BMW 535ix GT this month (pick it up in Munich the end of this month). I found the M noisy on a long trip even after I spent nearly $1k on a shop to install Dynamat all over the interior. The 2011 models supposedly have active noise cancellation, and that may help. I didn't look at them since the old one just had enough headroom, and the new ones are lower. The newer ones have more gears in the tranny, so may also rev lower at cruise, but mine ran over 3000rpm at 70mph, which may be fine on a short trip, but got really old on a long one.

#22153 of 22203 Re: I need help [circlew] by blckislandguy

Apr 07, 2011 (7:19 pm)

Replying to: circlew (Apr 05, 2011 8:39 am)
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. You are right. The Audi lineup doesn't appeal much to the new money crowd which is fine with me.
 
 The A7 is now on the ground and looks gorgeous. Idon't think that the gold chain crowd will ever want to drive one. Now if Audi can get their residuals up, a biz lease on an A7 would be just the thing: a little style, AWD to get home with in January, a hatch back to throw my gymn bag into in the AM, etc. All without teeing off the troops.

#22154 of 22203 Re: I need help [blckislandguy] by plekto

Apr 07, 2011 (10:05 pm)

Replying to: blckislandguy (Apr 07, 2011 7:19 pm)
That A7 is going to finally give the BMW 5 series something to have bad drams about at night
 
It looks fantastic, the interior, well, it's Audi - enough said, and it's getting rave reviews. I expect Top Gear or Fifth Gear to review it very shortly.

#22155 of 22203 A7 by dssxxxx

Apr 08, 2011 (5:48 am)

Looks great..............exactly the same as my A8 except the volume control is on the right instead of the left.............
 
Too bad they lowered the height 3".

#22156 of 22203 Re: A7 [dssxxxx] by plekto

Apr 08, 2011 (11:19 am)

Replying to: dssxxxx (Apr 08, 2011 5:48 am)
Perhaps a better comparison would be kind of like how the Jaguar XK is essentially essentially a upper-middle class man's Aston Martin. ie - This shares a lot of DNA with the Panamera. But for less money, less snobbish factor, and without the hideous rear end. It's a win-win-win situation.
 
If you think of it in this light, it's clear why it's 3 inches lower and looks like it does. Now Audi has two world-class cars - and this one isn't priced at stupidly high levels like the R8 is.
 
Oh - Top Gear's review of it says that the ride is pretty much not a factor. In a good way, that is. It does everything except for make you excited on track days/have that supercar rush. Myself, I love that sort of understated and yet supremely confident feel that you get from cars like this. Volvo used to be the epitome of this type of ride years ago, and for me, that's the right balance between performance and luxury. But I suspect that a slightly louder exhaust kit would solve it if you really want to make some noise.

#22157 of 22203 Re: A7 [dssxxxx] by james27

Apr 08, 2011 (3:16 pm)

Replying to: dssxxxx (Apr 08, 2011 5:48 am)
Those 3" are exactly the reason why I ended up with a BMW 535 GT, it was one of the few cars that actually had some decent headroom. I'll put up with that rather than having to cock my head into the sunroof well!

#22158 of 22203 Re: A7 [james27] by plekto

Apr 08, 2011 (6:11 pm)

Replying to: james27 (Apr 08, 2011 3:16 pm)
Of course, given the seating angles (it's quite low in the Panamera) your head won't touch the ceiling anyways. For anyone under 6'2", it'll be fine. And a lot cheaper than the base Panamera.
 
Plus, what's not to like about a V6 with a big supercharger on it? Thank you thank you thank you for not putting a whiny little turbo on it, Audi. Since it has a better transmission than the base Panamera (8 vs 7 gears), and weighs a bit less, it gets to 60mph in about half a second quicker as well. IMO, there's no reason to actually buy the base Panamera instead of this.

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