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"Well if you buy any SUV for driving dynamics you're an idiot." Frequently borne out by the incredibly risky and dangerously aggressive twisting and turning of these vehicles I see every day. I asked my neighbor why she got a RAV4 and not a sedan, since she lives alone and doesn't have much stuff. She looked at me like I must have recently arrived on the planet and said, "Why, because it is so much safer!"  I'm thinking X3 for my next vehicle since it is compact enough to handle almost as well as a 3 Series sedan and has a nice 71 cubic feet of rear space ( more than the X5). Even so, I would not attempt some of my 545i moves with the X3. I have decided against any medium to large SUV.
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Replying to: hpowders (Apr 19, 2007 5:15 pm) Don`t you still have another year to go?? A toyota , smallish suv was next to me today and I think it may be something to look at...Looked pretty sturdy, and I wonder if any suv really is worth buying for anything but quality...Tony
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Replying to: hpowders (Apr 19, 2007 5:15 pm) Is that really the case? Does the X3 handle almost as well as a 3-series sedan? TagMan
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Replying to: anthonyp (Apr 19, 2007 6:01 pm) Crossed the MDX Sport off the list as well as the X5. Looks like the greatly improved, refreshed X3 with the fabulous comfort seats, like I have in the 545i, is most likely what I would get. No big bulky SUV's. |
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 19, 2007 6:21 pm) I will check one out within the next 6 months (without the sport package, which the consensus of reviews maintains is "punishing"). Very interested in the 71 cubic feet-should be enough for me. More rear space than the X5, if you can believe it. Glad to read the wife likes the MDX. I haven't read a bad review yet on that vehicle. I will drive one just out of curiosity. But it's a bit too big for me and not a very good value from a leasing perspective. The X3 (the way I want it) would have an MSRP of about $3000 more than the MDX Sport. I know I can lease the X3 for about $160 less per month than the Acura and a 2 year lease on the MDX is not even available.
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Replying to: hpowders (Apr 19, 2007 7:03 pm) I recently picked up one of those FJ Cruisers, and while it is a good utility vehicle, it isn't really much more than that... and it turns out that the kids seem to get carsick in the back, because the second row's side window only extends about halfway back, and apparently they sit back there without a reasonable view out the side, and thus... carsickness sets in. And... it handles like a dog. So... I'm thinking about something in '08 as a second vehicle for myself. I've pretty much ruled out the BMW 3-series convertible, because I've already got a convertible with the Carrera, and I really need a second vehicle with cargo space. I heard that Mercedes has something like an MLK coming out... a slightly smaller SUV, but I don't know when. VW has a Tiguan coming out, but I'm not sure about it. The new LR2 sounds interesting, but it's got a Volvo engine. That's why today, all of a sudden, I thought about the X3. And then there was your post saying that it handles like a 3-series sedan. And THAT got my attention. So, I'm kind of in the same boat as you. But, I'd probably consider a small SUV with a diesel if it were available. TagMan
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There is also a new audi small suv coming. Saw the first official pics yesterday. So u guys r sayig that x3 handles almost as good as 3 series What abt the new x5 ?how good does it handle.
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 19, 2007 8:51 pm) I notice C&D was not enthusiastic about the MB E320 BlueTec in the May 07 issue. They called it "slower than it feels" finding the gasoline E350 "livlier and feels lighter." They found the E320 BlueTec "slower than the E350 in every respect." Seems like the E350 is more fun to drive than the E320. They obtained 29 mpg combined with the BlueTec but noted they would have to drive 49,000 miles to recoup the cost of diesel fuel over the gasoline (given $2.43 a gallon for diesel and $2.39 for premium gasoline at the time of the test).
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Replying to: ms09 (Apr 20, 2007 5:36 am) What bothers me is the X5 is so impractical; it is pure status, little more. They give you a laughable third row in which maybe a yorkie puppy could fit and the rear space with the second and third rows folded is a bit less than that in the X3. I sat in the new X5 at my dealers 2 months ago and was not impressed. Nothing jumped out at me telling me this was one expensive ute. For me the X3 is the perfect compromise: small enough to make its handling recognizable as BMW-worthy, functional with its 71 cubic feet, no third row, no iDrive, a key for starting the ignition, no stupid card that one has to insert and press a button to start the engine as in the X5. The X5 looks better than the X3. I think most people would agree with that, but from what I read, it seems BMW did a fine job upgrading the X3 from what it was last year-nicer leather and interior materials and a great inline 6 engine. If the X3 is practical and drives reasonably close to a 3 Series and I can lease in the $500's, count me in. I will drive one in about 6 months and if I agree with the reviews, I may propose a trade out of the 545i at that time, since X3's are not big movers at Florida BMW dealers. I can surely use that 71 cubic feet of space.
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Replying to: hpowders (Apr 20, 2007 5:57 am) I sat in the new X5 at my dealers 2 months ago and was not impressed. Nothing jumped out at me telling me this was one expensive ute. SO WHAT UR SAYING IS THAT THE OLD X5 HANDING IS REALLY NOT THAT GOOD AND NOT A FUN VEHICLE TO DRIVE, BUT U DID NOT DRIVE THE NEW X5 RITE? SO U DONT KNOW HOW THE NEW 1 HANDLES BUT IM SURE IT WILL BE A LOT MORE IMPROVEMENT FOR THE NEW X5
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