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Replying to: jimbres (Nov 07, 2009 7:34 am)  ...and ytd 9/09. CARLINE SEPTEMBER/2009 SEPTEMBER/2008 CY/2009 CY/2008 ACCENT 4,864 3,014 55,525 44,393 SONATA 7,898 8,629 93,575 97,442 ELANTRA 7,513 3,681 82,706 86,144 TIBURON 37 677 8,579 7,730 SANTA FE 7,010 4,676 58,067 56,629 AZERA 339 483 2,932 13,437 TUCSON 1,583 1,294 12,772 16,247 ENTOURAGE 28 455 3,423 4,360 VERACRUZ 574 827 8,704 8,427 GENESIS 1,665 1,029 15,934 2,855 TOTAL 31,511 24,765 342,217 337,664 Should sell at least 19K units in 2009. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 07, 2009 8:39 am) Well, I'll try to keep an open mind. I almost certainly won't buy anything before the spring of 2011. By that time, the next generation M (assuming, of course, that I like it) will have been out for a year. (As a rule, I stay away from the 1st year of a new design.) Perhaps by then I'll have changed my mind about Audi.
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 07, 2009 12:38 pm) Again, I have to believe that most of those sales are concentrated in the South & Southwest. The Genesis is virtually invisible in the North. If a monster tsunami obliterated Boston next week, it would probably destroy 10,000 Mercedes Benzes, 12,000 BMWs, 25,000 Volvos (most of which would be sporting Obama '08 bumper stickers) & 11 Genesises.
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Replying to: jimbres (Nov 07, 2009 5:09 pm) BTW, I took a quick ride over to our local H dealer and noticed the new 2010 Veracruz as it struck me as a CC of the RX. $10K less has to mean something to someone out there! The Gen coupe is quite striking in my view.  Agree there is a long road ahead for Hyundai to compete with the true lux brands, however. They are a poor man's Lexus today!  Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 07, 2009 7:00 pm) |
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Replying to: rockshocka1 (Nov 06, 2009 5:15 pm) I happened to be at the mall yesterday and got a chance to take a quick look at the Droid. I have to say I was less than blown away. It's smaller in person than it looks in pictures. I figured that the keyboard would be like the old HTC Touch Pro, but its even smaller than that and pretty much unusable. Too bad. At this point Sprint's Samsung Moment looks like the better phone. |
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Replying to: jimbres (Nov 07, 2009 5:01 pm) That's a good rule to follow. These days it seems like everybody is struggling to get rid of bugs in the first year. I've started to hear of some QC issues on the 2010 E class already.
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Replying to: jimbres (Nov 07, 2009 5:09 pm) Nicely put. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 08, 2009 9:15 am) Agree with Jimbres: stay off 1st model year. Lexus isn't only getting really bland, IMO, quality glitches are more and more apparent by the day. The only real good looking one IMO is the GS, and it doesn't really have a good reputation to talk about. I wonder what Toyota is thinking... maybe it caught MB's disease back in the 90s? Arrogance syndrome that is...  Acura, it made a huge mistake trying to get independent from Honda. And as the result we get the Darth Vader of luxury auto design. Give the TL an all-black color treatment and you get the idea  (not to mention it's gotten way too expensive for a TL with no actual improvement over the old one, save for the SH-AWD). If only Infiniti is willing to fix the lack of refinement in it's products, it'd be a serious contender in class. Start with better cabin and more sound insulation. That said, G coupe is attractive, although somewhat, uh, less muscular compared to the old one, seems like it's taking the sleek look route now... |
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Despite it's relatively decent sales, it's population is scarce in the Northwest. So I'm curious, where did all those sales go to? SE? SW?.... Personally while I've warmed up to Genesis' appeal, I still can't say Hyundai is ready to be in the luxury world. No it's not the brand, but the below standard customer service (luxury class standard that is) plus the product's not-exactly-luxurious trimmings still leave me unimpressed. Alas, this comment sparked a lot of controversy over at Hyundai thread. A Gen coupe, now that's a different story. It's the first Hyundai to make me look twice at it. One exception though, please dump the wing. 
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