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Re: Mercedes by jdr818
Sep 24, 2009 (3:23 pm)
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I've read that Mercedes' system is more "straight-forward". I'm not quite sure what that means, though. LOL
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Re Mercedes by jroadsin818
Sep 24, 2009 (3:46 pm)
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And for the record, "curb feelers" are less likely to break down.
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Re: Mercedes [jdr818] by ljflx
Sep 24, 2009 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: jdr818 (Sep 24, 2009 3:23 pm)

It's probably straightforward in the fact that it simply lets you know if the space is adequate for the car to fit in. Admittedly at night that's not always easy to tell. I was once an expert parralel parker in my Brooklyn days and could get a car into anything as long as it was a space just a tad bit larger than the car. Now that I live in a place where you pull into every parking spot - forget it. If I parralel park 3X a year I do it a lot, and on those rare times that I do I look for the biggest spot on the block. In 10 months I haven't parralel parked my GL yet.
 
Tag - agree on the rear camera. It's one of the most useful things on a car. I don't have it or the nav in the Infiniti and that's the last time that will ever happen again.
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Re: Where is Laurasdada? Dewey? Hpowders? DesignMan? [tagman] by dewey
Sep 24, 2009 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 23, 2009 2:03 pm)

The Gucci motto for luxury:
 
Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten.
 
The high quality life of living in a home and neighborhood I love. The high quality of fine private schools for my kids. The high quality of frequent distant vacation trips. That's where I like to spend my money. All those things have a long term positive affect on my life and in the end prices tend to be forgotten.
 
How does the luxury motto apply to modern luxury cars?
 
Quality remembered? In terms of modern luxury cars forget it! Most people want to lease luxury cars just to avoid their quality in the long run.
 
Price is forgotten? Not on a monthly lease plan. Or at least not if every luxury car buyer is like forum members here who keep cars for minimal periods. Price will definitely always be remembered.
 
Buying a luxury car nowadays is like buying or leasing a computer with a warranty. A luxury computer has as much relevance as a luxury car . Luxury in both industries are quite redundant in the face of rapid obsolesence.
 
So no I myself did not fall off a cliff. But what did fall of a cliff is my interest in luxury cars. Vintage luxury cars is where my interest is, But unfortunately I will have to wait a couple of decades until my 83 MB300D becomes a vintage car.
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The Future of a Non-Enthuisast Car Industry by dewey
Sep 24, 2009 (5:07 pm)
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In fact the industry trend for cars is beginning to resemble an industry that is far different from the car industry we knew in the past:
 
My hunch is that the biggest auto maker in the future will not even be among the big automakers today. It will be a company that started off as a battery company like BYD from China just as Panasonic started off in batteries before entering the camera industry.
 
The description below for future cars revolves around having the bestbest batteries and electrical motors and not on having the best drivetrains or suspensions:
 
A number of carmakers and component companies are, for example, looking at getting rid of drive trains, and fitting electric motors directly into cars’ wheels. Such systems would be operated electronically, so they would also provide traction control.
 
With wheel-mounted motors that mix motive power, braking and active suspension, more of the things conventionally fitted to a car become unnecessary. Because a gearbox, clutch, transmission and differential unit are no longer needed, and springs and other suspension items will probably go, too, vehicles could assume all sorts of shapes and sizes.

 
link title
 
Yes folks my Toyota Prius is the beginning of the end of the car industry as we know it. And yes I do love my Prius. So far no speeding tickets.
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Re: Lexus self-park feature [ljflx] by circlew
Sep 24, 2009 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Sep 24, 2009 3:01 pm)

If you lease and return the vehicle does someone inherit your music unlicensed?.
 
Yes, the RIAA will fine you $5,000 per song for fille sharing illegally!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: The Future of a Non-Enthuisast Car Industry [dewey] by tagman
Sep 24, 2009 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Sep 24, 2009 5:07 pm)

Dewey,
  
I knew you were out there... and I enjoyed those posts. The whole meaning of luxury and "what matters most" (a book with that title has been written) have changed as a result of the economic meltdown. So many families were impacted and so many folks lost jobs and homes and necessary healthcare that a fresh perspective of life's priorities is a predictable result.
  
The lifestyle you described is indeed a luxury. You are fortunate to be able to live that kind of quality life and feel the way you do about it. I feel the same way about Malibu, so I totally understand what you were describing. The luxury is in the quality of life, not the things we have. However, there are some things that are downright nice to own... I think most of us would prefer a good music system to a bad one, for example... although it's not a necessity by any means.
  
And, there is no doubt that the future of cars is going to be nothing short of revolutionary during the next decade. So is wireless voice, video, audio, and data transfer of all types.
  
Great to hear from you. Don't disappear to much. Your opinions are awesome, interesting, and provoking... just perfect for this forum.
  
TM
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Whew by m4d_cow
Sep 24, 2009 (10:24 pm)
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Glad to see the MIAs are still around
 
A lot of highly educational posts the past day, I really appreaciate them all.
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Re: The Future of a Non-Enthuisast Car Industry [tagman] by jlbl
Sep 25, 2009 (12:37 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 24, 2009 8:17 pm)

I think most of us would prefer a good music system to a bad one, for example...
 
 
 
Pergolesi's Stabat Mater Dolorosa, for instance… doesn't sound likely in a music room or a good music system as compared to a computer, but even so…
having a try
 
Regards,
Jose
 
PS: In that recording conductor Claudio Abado in his youth looked like a dark Dracula!

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