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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Jul 04, 2009 4:00 am) |
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 04, 2009 3:30 pm) Yeah after I thought about it for a minute, only the A4 or the 328i wagons fit. They actually have more space in back than I thought. For some reason the cargo space listing on New Car Test Drive is completely wrong. The Avant has 50 cubes with the seats down, not 34. That's actually not that far off from the compact utes, which have around 65-75. The 328 xDrive wagon has 48. The Volvo V50 wagon has the most space at 62, but the T5 AWD version is unlikely to average 25mpg. I also don't think it's nearly as nice as the Audi or BMW. |
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 04, 2009 3:30 pm) |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 04, 2009 12:25 pm) Regards, OW
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Replying to: dhamilton (Jul 04, 2009 5:50 am) How's this for non-wastefulness Toyota iQ will have a Aston Martin version with its 3 cylinder 67 hp engine. So much for the future of wastefulness link title |
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Replying to: jlbl (Jul 04, 2009 9:39 am) I talked to my cousin from Germany and I told him I will replace my BMW with a Prius and he immediately said why not a diesel VW, Benz or BMW? He was persuasive but not persuasive enough.
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Jul 04, 2009 4:08 am) The cargo space of the the Prius is quite generous. For such a small car with such a big battery the space efficiency is phenemonal.
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Jul 04, 2009 5:57 pm) I think I'm gonna have to say that you're biased. The RX450 has the fuel economy, the AWD (kind of) and the space, but that's it. Every review I've read has described it as the Blandtastic 4(50). 0-60 in less than 7? Nope. Nimble, IS style handling? Uh, no. The A4 Avant can blow through the cones at 70mph, and hold .86g on the skidpad. The RX450 trundles through at 58mph, and can hold .76g. I'm sure feedback, on-center feel, and proper weighting in cornering from the wheel is also el-zilcho. It may be more exciting than the last one, but that's like saying that French Vanilla ice cream is more exciting than Vanilla icre cream.
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 04, 2009 7:40 pm) In terms of economy and practicality, the Prius is off the charts. No argument from me there. Unlike the Insight, it's not a clunky penalty box that gets the same or worse fuel economy than the Civic. It shows how far in the bag C&D is for Honda that they rated the Insight above the Prius. Even CR trashed it. If your requirements extend beyond a super efficient box with wheels though, the Prius starts to come up short.
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 03, 2009 9:53 pm) Yes the MB300D is a good example to illustrate the senseless of progress in the auto industry. Mercedes Benz realized that they would go bankrupt if they continued producing cars like my 83 MB 300D which just keep on going and going and going..... The MB 300D is gaining cult status because there is no other model whose vehicles accomplish such high mileage in the history of the auto industry. In order to achieve "going concern status" MB had no choice but to make their cars less reliable with less longetivity and they had accomplished this with expensive technologies that makes maintenace for the long term uneconomic. I know a client who drove a long time ago a MB CL and he paid a fortune to replace a vacuum pump for his door ( I believe it was 6K $ but not certain since the performanc of my long term memory is not as good as the long term performance of my MB300D). This whole notion that a luxury car has to be expensive to maintain is entrenched in our thinking (even reliable Lexuses are expensive to maintain). The old Benzes contradicted this whole notion and would make leasing a reliable Benz car quite senseless in term of saving after-warranty expenses.
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