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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Jul 04, 2009 4:00 am) Regarding large cargo, that is where you throw me off. The IS350 is a small car, and in my mind cannot really carry much of anything. That's why I mentioned the EX350.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 02, 2009 6:59 am) The normally aspirated V8s, V10,s and V12s will give way to turbo and supercharged (or both as in some VWs) 4 and 6 cylinder engines, hopefully with HCCI technology sooner rather than later. Eventually the ICE will disappear completely, but before that happens, there's going to be some great cars. I am in fully agreement to that. Looking forward also to new diesel developments. Regards, Jose |
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Welcome back, Dewey. I feel you have (re)started a new sub thread in this thread.   . TM seem to have lost interest in owning a Hybrid by the time being. Regards, Jose |
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Replying to: jlbl (Jul 04, 2009 9:39 am)  Jose, we already own a hybrid... I bought a Ford Escape Limited Hybrid many months ago... my daughter drives it primarily, although my wife and I have sneaked it our now and then. In addition, I have posted a substantial number of positive remarks about hybrids for quite some time now. I believe they represent the transition to all-electric vehicles. I would seriously consider one for my next car. That said, I have also mentioned several times that diesel fuel is now priced well enough to re-consider the clean diesel alternatives that I was so excited about in the recent past. I cannot predict when I will buy my next personal vehicle, however, as I am enjoying the 135i for the time being. It is still covered under years of warranty and included maintenance. By the time I am ready to get my next vehicle, I am certain there will be some very interesting choices out there... including hybrids, diesels, and EVs. TM
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 04, 2009 10:58 am) Yup, though I know your opinion is in favour of hybrid technology, I forgot you own a hybrid car. I imagine your daughter is happy with that hybrid. Has she inherited your love for cars? My apologies for my bad memory. Regards, Jose
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Jul 04, 2009 4:00 am) So a reasonably fast, fuel efficient car with performance oriented AWD that has some decent cargo space and good handling. Putting all of those things together into one car isn't easy. The 25mpg requirement writes off the entire luxury CUV class. Even the best will only manage 20mpg, with most of them far below that. Only the RX450h qualifies, and as I'm sure you know, the RX doesn't know the meaning of the word "nimble". It also is driving only its front wheels 90% of the time. In this case, I think you're best bet is to skip the SUVs and go for a wagon, more specifically the A4 Avant 2.0T. The maximum amount of cargo space is a little more than half of what's available in the Q5, but that's the sacrifice that's required to hit 25mpg. The 5 and A6 wagons have space more comparable to the SUVs, but they also drink fuel like the SUVs. The A4 is a bit more spacious and fuel efficient than the 328i xDrive Sportwagon, and should satisfy every one of your requirements. The 2010 car I believe gets the latest version of MMI with Audi NAV "Plus", which is the most advanced factory NAV system in the business. Quattro is also the best in the business. If you get Audi Care scheduled maintenance is covered for the warranty period, but it's not as good as BMWs program because it doesn't cover "wear items" like pads and rotors. The price ranges from around $35-50. 
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Replying to: jlbl (Jul 04, 2009 11:17 am) She is indeed very happy with it, but, to answer your question, no... she doesn't seem to have a genuine passion for cars... she has other things on her 16-yr.-old mind... I'm sure you can imagine. My 9-yr.-old son, however, is already a car freak, just like me. Maybe even worse. I hope he becomes successful enough one day so that he can enjoy some of the good ones... whatever they may be when he is old enough to drive. Fast and electric is my guess, but who knows. TM |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 04, 2009 12:25 pm) TM
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Jul 04, 2009 4:00 am) |
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 04, 2009 3:30 pm) Yeah after I thought about it for a minute, only the A4 or the 328i wagons fit. They actually have more space in back than I thought. For some reason the cargo space listing on New Car Test Drive is completely wrong. The Avant has 50 cubes with the seats down, not 34. That's actually not that far off from the compact utes, which have around 65-75. The 328 xDrive wagon has 48. The Volvo V50 wagon has the most space at 62, but the T5 AWD version is unlikely to average 25mpg. I also don't think it's nearly as nice as the Audi or BMW. |
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