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Re: Owning a Lux Car Out of Warranty vs. Depreciation on Year One [tagman] by lexusguy
Jul 03, 2009 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 03, 2009 1:54 pm)

California has the "Lemon Law"... too many repeated repairs and the car can be returned.
 
Same here. In PA, if the same problem cannot be fixed by the third try, or if the car has been in the shop a total of 30+ days, the manufacturer can be taken to court. If they lose, they have to buy the car back and pay attorney fees and any other legal costs. Used car buyers are also protected from lemon law buyback cars if a dealer tries to represent them as having a clean title.
 
I'm not sure how it works in Canada.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [dewey] by cdnpinhead
Jul 03, 2009 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 03, 2009 9:44 am)

. . ."living hell on 4 run flat tires."
 
Interesting turn of phrase. It helps buttress my decision to have purchased my own appliance.
 
Enjoy yours.
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Re: Owning a Lux Car Out of Warranty vs. Depreciation on Year One [lexusguy] by dewey
Jul 03, 2009 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jul 03, 2009 1:14 pm)

No lemon laws here in Ontario, Canada otherwise I would have returned my car to the dealership.
 
Take a Ferrari for example. Properly maintaining a Ferrari means significant expenses every year, even if nothing goes wrong. That doesn't mean a 599GTB is a piece of junk. It comes with the territory.
 
I guess junk is the wrong word. Waste would be more appropriate.
 
In my opinion luxury can be subdivided into three categories.
 
Conspicuous Waste-- Ferrari or a Hummer
Conspicuous Precision --- Lexus or any car that is well built in a high quality/durable fashion.
Conspicuous Reputation --- A European Marqe rich in history
 
Luxury that is defined primarily by waste (excessive primitive fuel inefficient horspower) or "repuation that any snob can recognize" is not in my opionion a worthy luxury. Precision in terms of technology, engineering, quality and durability is what counts most for me at this point of time.
 
The beauty of a Prius in that it provides "conspicuous precison"-best of the best technology, reliability, quality and durability (based on its one decade history) without a luxury price. The only reason a Prius is not a luxury car is because of its low price. For people who like paying luxury prices can always buy a Lexus HS instead of a Prius.
 
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [cdnpinhead] by dewey
Jul 03, 2009 (8:52 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jul 03, 2009 6:22 pm)

Thanks.
 
At least I dont feel so lonely now in my quest for an appliance.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [circlew] by dewey
Jul 03, 2009 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 03, 2009 4:34 pm)

The CR-V is one of the most sensible vehicles out thereespecially with AWD--assuming you live with white winters.
 
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [dewey] by tagman
Jul 03, 2009 (9:53 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 03, 2009 8:53 pm)

The CR-V is one of the most sensible vehicles out there...
 
I'll second that. I've been posting praise for the CR-V ever since it made its debut, and became (justifiably) the best-selling SUV practically overnight.
 
BTW, your post about the Prius sure sounds like a guy that has some definite appreciation for the vehicle... maybe not to the level of enthusiast, but certainly not posted by someone who hates cars.
 
I think you have a strong dislike for the senselessness of many vehicles. Interesting perspective, and at this time in many of our lives, it isn't such a bad thing to focus on being sensible, having meaningful priorities, and an aversion to wastefullness.
 
TM
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New car search begins by 2001gs430
Jul 04, 2009 (4:00 am)
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I know, I know, being only 2 years into having a couple of brand new cars, why am I thinking about a new car?
First of all, upon returning to Toronto from KC, my wife has decided to really learn to drive in order start driving our daughter to/from school in the coming years. So she's decided that my beloved IS350 is HER car. That left me with a little too much car in the form of the 2008 RX350 for my most of my daily driving.
There is nothing wrong with the RX, but I missed driving the IS too much, so here I am thinking about swapping the SUV for some thing different.
What vehicle should I get? aside from really wanting a G/T-R, I have a few criteria for that new car, but I need your input so that my search is more complete:
- AWD for winter usage, but ideally with rwd bias for non-slipper condition.
- Can do 0-60 mph in the 6-7 seconds range, with avg FE around 25 mpg
- It needs to occasionally be able to carry large cargo.
- It has to provide smooth, quite ride for most of the time, but can also turns into nimble machine like my IS at my choosing.
- Not a Subaru.
 
Where should I start looking?
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Re: Lexus and MB Marriage?? [circlew] by 2001gs430
Jul 04, 2009 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 01, 2009 6:03 pm)

Make perfect sense, MB needs good small cars and Lexus wants to be noticed in Europe.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [dewey] by 2001gs430
Jul 04, 2009 (4:08 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 03, 2009 9:29 am)

Congrats, when are you taking delivery?
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Re: Greetings from Seattle! [cyclone4] by 2001gs430
Jul 04, 2009 (4:15 am)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Jul 02, 2009 3:47 pm)

Congrats, that mileage is amazing, my RX is stuck at around 18 mpg life time with all the driving/idling in Toronto traffic.
I will have to give it a try for myself.

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